| Bozkashi Jones | 15 Nov 2015 8:21 a.m. PST |
On page 24 of General Quarters II the claim is made that there were 10 battleship engagements during World War 1, not including shore bombardments. Allowing this to include battle cruisers, and assuming a "battleship action" includes only those where BOTH sixes had capital ships, what were they? I can think of: Dogger Bank (1915)
Gulf of Riga (1915)
Jutland (1916)
Heligoland (1917) If more one-sided battles are included, then there are: Falkland Islands (1914)
Heligoland (1914)
Imbros (1918) What's missing? Cheers, Nick |
| NCC1717 | 15 Nov 2015 8:38 a.m. PST |
November 18, 1914, Goeben vs the Black Sea Fleet.
May 10, 1915, ditto.
January 8, 1916, Goeben vs Imperatritsa Ekaterina. |
| Allen57 | 15 Nov 2015 8:42 a.m. PST |
Some battle with the Russians in the mid to late war period. IIRC the Russians had only a couple predreds while the Germans had battleships. Edit: Got to thinking about the Russians and came up with these: Cape Sarych, Moon Sound, Gulf of Riga |
| NCC1717 | 15 Nov 2015 8:48 a.m. PST |
Battle of Moon Sound, Oct-Nov 1917.
link |
| Bozkashi Jones | 15 Nov 2015 9:04 a.m. PST |
Now that is a superb name for a battle! Cheers guys |
Tgerritsen  | 15 Nov 2015 4:41 p.m. PST |
If you are counting the Falklands, should you count Coronel? |
| brass1 | 15 Nov 2015 4:52 p.m. PST |
No battleships at Coronel. LT |
| MajorB | 16 Nov 2015 6:08 a.m. PST |
No battleships at Coronel. When is a battleship not a battleship? When it's an armoured cruiser!! |
 McKinstry  | 16 Nov 2015 9:01 a.m. PST |
The old pre-dreadnought Canopus was trying to keep up and reach Coronel but given her material condition was horrible and as I recall, her 12" were actually outranged by the German 8.2" on Scharnhorst and Gneisnau. Her inclusion would have just added to the RN casualty list. Falklands and Heligoland 1914 shouldn't count as there were no dreadnoughts or BC's on the German side. |
| Bozkashi Jones | 16 Nov 2015 3:52 p.m. PST |
Just been reading the Osprey title on the Ottoman Navy 1914-18 (which I'd received but not got around to reading before) and it gives reasonable accounts of the actions in the Black Sea – worth a look. One thing about operations in the Black Sea and the Aegean though – ships don't seem to have been able to sail more than half an hour anywhere without hitting a mine |
| rmaker | 16 Nov 2015 6:16 p.m. PST |
The old pre-dreadnought Canopus was trying to keep up and reach Coronel but given her material condition was horrible Actually, she was in ok condition, but her Chief Engineer had gone round the bend and kept reporting imaginary problems. |
| Blutarski | 17 Nov 2015 3:42 a.m. PST |
Re Canopus – I think "ok condition" might be a relative term. Canopus was one of many old ships hurriedly drawn out of reserve at the outbreak of war, given a hasty refit, crewed with reservists and sent off to war. I read into this in some detail and the truth of the matter (I believe) differed a bit from that popular story. Her engineering officer was arguing that her <<<sustained>>> speed was only 12kts. B |
| McKinstry | 17 Nov 2015 9:04 a.m. PST |
As I recall from Massie, at one point trying to keep up with the rest of Craddock's doomed squadron, she signaled 'out of control' as in she couldn't cope with a rough head sea. Returning to the Falklands, she was grounded and used as a stationary battery. |
| 4th Cuirassier | 17 Nov 2015 3:23 p.m. PST |
And painted green and brown which makes a change! |
| w4golf | 21 Dec 2015 11:18 a.m. PST |
I think Cradock was told 12 knots and she (Canopus) was actually making 14, if I recall correctly. He was not informed of the increase. I'm not sure if the 2 knots would have made a difference in his decision making. |
