| green beanie | 12 Nov 2015 4:14 p.m. PST |
Does the book "The Hobbit" mention what color dragon Smaug was? I read the book back in the 70's so can not remember but I always thought he was a black dragon. Any one know for sure? |
| Cattle Dog | 12 Nov 2015 4:49 p.m. PST |
In the book "Lord Of The Rings" at the Council of Eldrond Gandalf mentions using a black dragon to destroy the ring cannot remember the name of that one in case they were the same.
Regards Allan |
| elsyrsyn | 12 Nov 2015 4:52 p.m. PST |
Ancalagon the black is the one I think you mean, and I think the mention is that even his fire would be insufficient to melt the one ring. Smaug is, I believe, described as red gold. Doug |
| jpattern2 | 12 Nov 2015 5:26 p.m. PST |
Smaug as illustrated by JRR himself:
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 Parzival  | 12 Nov 2015 5:30 p.m. PST |
The Hobbit: There he lay, a vast red-golden dragon, fast asleep; From the chapter "Inside Information," this is Bilbo's very first sight of Smaug. Of course, "red-golden" is open to some interpretation as to hue and shade. An orangey-red, perhaps, with a bit of metallic effect to it? Here's my attempt with the same beast:
Alas, the photo quality is lousy, so the details and hue changes aren't visible, but you get the general color scheme I chose (favoring the red, obviously). |
| Cattle Dog | 12 Nov 2015 9:23 p.m. PST |
Thank you Elsyrsyn, I have often remarked that "I have forgotten more than I have learnt". I will just read the book again. Regards Allan |
| doug redshirt | 12 Nov 2015 11:58 p.m. PST |
Wait a second. I just realized that Tolkien meant the dragon to have 4 legs and 2 wings, yet Peter Jackson removed a set of legs. |
| John Treadaway | 13 Nov 2015 2:46 a.m. PST |
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| elsyrsyn | 13 Nov 2015 5:03 a.m. PST |
I have often remarked that "I have forgotten more than I have learnt" I hear you. My problem is that I can remember trivial things like the name of a fictional dragon, and the context in which he's discussed, but not what I came into a room looking for.  Doug |
| haywire | 13 Nov 2015 9:29 a.m. PST |
lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Smaug
In the prologue of the theatrical release of An Unexpected Journey, Smaug had six limbs (four legs and two wings), which was his initial design, before it was changed for the next film, where the Dragon is revealed as having four limbs (two back legs and two front legs with his wings attached). Additionally, several scene captures revealed that his scale was seen to be in blue coloring at the very end of the film for unknown reasons. Although this could largely be because the filmmakers had yet to finalize Smaug's design when the film was released.
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| green beanie | 14 Nov 2015 6:50 a.m. PST |
Parzival, Is that a helicopter attacking Smaug? |
| gamedad25 | 14 Nov 2015 9:46 a.m. PST |
Perhaps dwarf gyrocoptors are mentioned in the Lost Tales? |
| Parzival | 16 Nov 2015 4:16 p.m. PST |
The gyrocopter is clearly from the Peter Jackson Extended Extended Edition: The Hobbit: Can We Suck More Money Outta This (Director's Cut) Unreleased Fourth Film. 
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| Crazyivanov | 20 Nov 2015 8:47 a.m. PST |
Another thing to remember was that when Smaug began his attack on Lake Town his first instinct was to run down into the town on foot, only to be foiled by Bard having the bridge cut. He even considers swimming before taking wing. Clearly the intention was for Smaug at least to be a creature that can fly, but prefers to attack his foes at their level. |
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