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MichaelCollinsHimself09 Nov 2015 4:08 a.m. PST

I`m setting a target for February when I will endeavour to make the first book of Grand Manoeuvre Nineteenth Century rules variants available.
The new rules will in the same format as Grand Manoeuvre Napoleonic rules.
The first part, an introduction to basic game terms etc., will also have information about unit/army organisation and qualities, the weapons used, tactical doctrine and lists of historical generals` ratings.

The second part will be the basic game rules themselves.

The first part will also contain additional rules, rules amendments and omissions. This first part will be made available separately, at half the full cost, if you already have the Napoleonic version.

Also included for reference, there will be separate files for the rules changes in each war.

The wars covered will be as follows:
1. The South American Wars 1811-1824
2. The November Uprising 1830-1
3. The Egyptian–Ottoman Wars 1831–3 & 1839-41
4. The Mexican War of 1846-8
5. The First Italian War of Independence 1848-9
6. The Hungarian Uprising 1848-9
7. The 1st Schleswig-Holstein War 1848-51

As with GM Napoleonic rules, there'll be an ink-saving black and white version supplied too.

More info about Grand Manoeuvre at: grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/about-gm

KTravlos09 Nov 2015 5:39 a.m. PST

Best of luck! I will probably buy the first part for the historical info!

MichaelCollinsHimself09 Nov 2015 2:05 p.m. PST

Thanks Konstantinos – I only hope it`ll be worth the fiver !

MichaelCollinsHimself29 Jan 2016 12:29 p.m. PST

I`m coming close to finishing the new rules – I do have one or two tactical diagrams to add and I need to edit the rules examples to make them relevant to the period`s wars.
I need also to make those specific war rules amendments sheets that I mentioned previously.
Then there`ll be the contents and index pages to do… so, maybe by the middle of the February it`ll all be ready…

Please stay tuned !

MichaelCollinsHimself02 Feb 2016 11:38 a.m. PST

Latest on this:

There will be a full version of the rules (the same price as GM Napoleonic rules, £10.00 GBP) and also an update package with the rule changes (at half price; £5.00 GBP) for people who already have the Napoleonic version.

The rules will be available as a pdf download and the publication date will be Saturday 20th February.

What else?
Black & White ink-friendly copy of the file.
A copy of separate note files on each war for ease of reference.
A quick-reference booklet as per the Napoleonic rules.
Plus other optional aids to play.

KTravlos03 Feb 2016 12:43 a.m. PST

It sounds good!

MichaelCollinsHimself07 Feb 2016 1:37 p.m. PST

I`m well ahead of schedule on this. It could be available sooner.

Thinking about some paper armies to go with.

MichaelCollinsHimself13 Feb 2016 12:27 p.m. PST

7 days to go…

I`m doing my final editing and checking of files now.

MichaelCollinsHimself14 Feb 2016 12:43 p.m. PST

So, here`s a summary of the information about the rules, where to get them and what they contain:…

The first of Grand Manoeuvre nineteenth century rules variants will be available as pdf downloads from the GM website at: grandmanoeuvre.co.uk/shop
on Saturday 20th February.

There will be a full version of the rules which the same price as GM Napoleonic rules, (£10) and an update package will consist of the rules introduction booklet and separate files for each war at half price (£5) for people who already have the Napoleonic version of Grand Manoeuvre.

The new rules will in the same format as Grand Manoeuvre Napoleonic rules.
The first part, an introduction to basic game terms etc., will have information about unit/army organisation and qualities, the weapons used, tactical systems and doctrine and lists of historical generals` ratings.
The introduction will also contain additional rules, rules amendments and omissions.
The second part will be the basic game rules themselves.

Also included for reference, there will be separate files for the rules changes in each of the wars:
1. The South American Wars 1811-1824.
2. The November Uprising 1830-1.
3. The Egyptian–Ottoman Wars 1831–3 & 1839-41.
4. The Mexican War of 1846-8.
5. The First Italian War of Independence 1848-9.
6. The Hungarian Uprising 1848-9.
7. The 1st Schleswig-Holstein War 1848-51.

As with GM Napoleonic rules, there'll be;
1. A quick-reference booklet as per the Napoleonic rules
2. An ink-saving black and white version of the main rule book.
3. Optional orders and messages sheets
4. Optional timetables for umpires to plan/keep track of their scenarios.

MichaelCollinsHimself15 Feb 2016 10:21 a.m. PST

From the Introduction to notes on the Hungarian Uprising:

Even once the Russians had entered the war and the balance of forces had swung towards the Austrians, the Hungarian Uprising still presents us with some interesting battles and campaigning possibilities.
Up until that point in the war the Hungarians had proved themselves able to match the invading Austrians and the Austrian-allied armies like the Jellacic`s Croatian army.

The Austrians and Hungarians both had all-arms brigades and divisions, the battalions had same structure as they did in 1815; a battalion, comprised of three divisions, and these of two companies each. Each of the companies had two "zugs". Zugs were also termed "half-companies".

The Austrian's and the Hungarian's standard infantry formation for manoeuvre was the division-masse. Tactically nothing much had changed from the Napoleonic wars, apart from Hungarian troops being able adopt loose order tactics, which may have had advantages in the right tactical circumstances, but this was not in itself a battle-winning tactic.
The introduction of Augustine percussion caps to existing smoothbore muskets led to an improvement in loading, rate of fire, and a reduction in misfires, but both sides were similarly equipped and so there was no significant advantage by either side.
Preferring linear tactics, Russian tactical doctrine was unchanged since the "November Uprising" of 1830-31.
Added to this mix, both Austrians and Hungarians had rocket artillery.

MichaelCollinsHimself16 Feb 2016 12:46 p.m. PST

This is from the introduction to the rules amendments for the Schleswig-Holstein War:

The First Schleswig-Holstein War of 1848–51 was a result of the conflict between the Duke of Augustenborg and the Danish King; it was a war that was sparked by the political turmoil, revolutions and rebellions in the rest of Europe.

Attempts to make government in Denmark more democratic, by introducing regional assemblies was not enough to hold the Kingdom together with German liberals in Schleswig Holstein being attracted to membership of the German Confederation.

A political compromise could not be reached in negotiations between the Danish liberals, the King, and a delegation from the Schleswig Holsteiners from Kiel; on the 24th of March, 1848 a Schleswig Holstein provisional government was formed in Kiel. Also on that day the Prince of Nor, marched with a few troops and persuaded the garrison of Rendsburg to join the government.
The War had begun, when at the end of March, the Danish army marched into the Duchy of Schleswig.

The major innovation in this war was that company columns with deployed skirmishers were used by all sides – the Danes had introduced these into their regulations in 1842, five years earlier than the Prussians.

A response to the lessons learned in the Napoleonic Wars, the company column tactic was centred on the need for more flexible supports to the main firing line of skirmishing troops in loose, or extended orders; and behind the company columns, the reserve companies were always held in line formation.
Later in the 1850`s Prussian generals called the use of battalion column formations: "parade tactics" but praised the new company column as the new "shooting war tactic".

MichaelCollinsHimself16 Feb 2016 2:10 p.m. PST

And the other war of 1848 covered in the new rules …this is the introduction to rules amendments for the 1st Italian War of Independence:

The movement for Italian independence in this war was led by Charles Albert, King of Piedmont, but the insurgent allies were not a completely unified force.
Italian liberals objected to what they perceived as Charles Albert`s expansionist ambitions and the support of the Papal States was withdrawn on religious grounds, with Ferdinand of Naples being persuaded to following suit.
This disunity and the Austrian's greater resources made the end result fairly predictable. But for the political pressure after the war from Great Britain and France, who wanted to preserve Piedmont as a buffer state, the kingdom may have been absorbed, or severely treated by the Austrians.

Prior to 1848, militarily, the Piedmontese fearing an attack by Napoleon III, had prepared for a possible defensive campaign against France.
In their Infantry regulations of 1833, they followed French methods and practices and the Piedmontese cavalry regulations of 1817 were also based upon French ones.

The Austrians will be using the same methods (and so the same rules apply) as in the Hungarian Uprising.

The use of artillery is probably the most notable facet in the war the Piedmontese with their heavy 16 pounders could be well-handled and effective. The Austrians also had some rockets that were used to good effect but this was generally employed in sieges.

MichaelCollinsHimself17 Feb 2016 3:29 a.m. PST

and this for rules amendments for the South American Wars of Independence:

After Napoleon had placed his brother Joseph on the throne of Spain, a power vacuum and also therefore opportunities arose to seize power developed across the Spanish provinces of South America. In short time, provisional governments or "Juntas" (a Junta was originally a term for a Spanish legislative council) sprung up in the major cities in the provinces, declaring to rule in the name of the Spanish throne.

But the Juntas had their own, more liberal, political agendas that ran contrary to the interests of Spain who had imposed exclusive trade laws upon their colonies. Added to the pre-existing racial and social divisions within the provinces, the events in distant Europe caused the instability that would lead to conflict between the Spanish Viceroys` Royalist forces and their new Revolutionary, or Patriotic opponents.

Sometime between 1808 and 1812 the Spanish (and thereby the South American provinces) adopted versions of French infantry regulations and so therefore the tactics of all armies were essentially linear in nature. The tactical practices of the South American armies too followed French guidelines and we have examples of detachments of grenadiers and of light infantry "flanking brigades".
The emphasis in all armies would have been upon a deployed order of battle with columns used to hold troops in reserve, or for attacking positions.

But the South American armies seem to have followed the established Spanish tactic of "early fire", Opening up musketry fire at ranges as far as 500 metres, early fire is a primarily a defensive tactic whose success needs to depend upon steadiness and good discipline of the troops using it, but this was a characteristic which few South American units possessed, and so, in the first 4-5 years of the Wars the use of the tactic probably favoured armies that were on the offensive.
So it was only after several years fighting that the Revolutionary armies were to embrace British tactical methods (for example at the battle of Boyacá, Bolívar's army advanced in columns screened by skirmishers and then deployed to line) and with this tactic they would have dispensed with the early fire tactics that were used at the start of the wars by both sides.

daler240D17 Feb 2016 5:10 a.m. PST

great info. sounds like a publication I will be picking up. I really appreciate a healthy dose of background info for rules for new periods that I am exploring.

MichaelCollinsHimself17 Feb 2016 7:32 a.m. PST

thanks – 3 more to follow….

MichaelCollinsHimself17 Feb 2016 8:46 a.m. PST

Intro to the November Uprising:

The outcome of this war was perhaps never in doubt. But for one or two moments of opportunity that existed early in the campaign, in which the Poles may have taken more aggressive action, the uprising was bound to fail.
Whereas popular opinion abroad favoured the Poles in their rebellion, most governments supported the Russians and so the Poles failed to receive support from other nations that the radicals hoped for.
The insurrection was sparked by a chance incident in the military cadet school in Warsaw, and so it began without much warning, or chance for the rebels to plan the event and enlist broad popular support for it.
The reactions to the uprising of both Polish generals and the population were mixed; many thought it a mistake to oppose Russia militarily. Some Poles preferred to remain subject to Russian rule. There were then, throughout the conflict, serious political divisions within the Polish high command and there were far too numerous changes in leadership and commanding generals to maintain the confidence and morale of the Polish army.

At first the Poles under their "Dictator", General Chlopicki, who was neither in favour of armed resistance to Russia, nor of mobilising against her, but attempted to negotiate a settlement with Russia. The Tsar however rejected the advances of the Poles, demanding that the; "Poles should surrender to the grace of their Emperor." Chlopicki was then forced to resign.

A national government was formed in late January with power held by the "Patriotic Society", led by Joachim Lelewel, but Chlopicki was still retained as the commander-in-chief of Polish armed forces.
By the first week of February 1831, the Poles had lost the opportunity to open an offensive in Lithuania, when the Russians took the initiative; Field Marshal von Diebitsch crossing the Polish border with an army of 115,000.

MichaelCollinsHimself17 Feb 2016 8:53 a.m. PST

Intro to the Egyptian Ottoman Wars:

The First Egyptian-Ottoman War (1831-33) was caused by the grievance of Muhammad Ali Pasha. Muhammad Ali demanded the control of Syria as a reward for Egypt's military assistance to the Ottomans against the Greeks and against the combined Russian and British fleets in 1829. But the Ottomans chose not to consent to this demand. Muhammad Ali therefore, sent his son Ibrahim with his army, to invade and take possession of Syria, and with his naval forces he occupied the coastal regions of Lebanon and Palestine.

The armies that were to fight each other in these wars had both gone through recent reforms; both had introduced forms of conscription.

The Egyptians had unsuccessfully tried enlisting Albanians and Sudanese slaves as soldiers, before they opted to raise forces by conscription from the peasants of Upper Egypt (The Fellaheen).

After the Janissaries power had been destroyed, the Ottoman army was reformed by Mehmed Husrev Pasha. "The Mansure" (or Victorious) Army was formed in 1826 and was based upon the regulations and organisation of the French Napoleonic army.
In addition they also formed provincial militias to supplement their regular forces. Raising local irregular forces had been the practice before, but this new structure was more regulated.

In both conflicts Great Britain and France intervened to support the Ottomans out of a fear that a further weakened Ottoman Empire would give the Russians an opportunity to extend their territory, power and influence.

MichaelCollinsHimself17 Feb 2016 8:55 a.m. PST

Intro to the US-Mexican War of 1846-48:

Prior to the war the small, regular American army of less than 10,000 had been scattered amongst garrisons along the western borders of the United States and its eastern seaboard.
The Mexican army which numbered more than 30,000 (which included just over 10,000 militia) had largely been used to keep order within Mexico itself and under its generals, or it was used politically to support local governors against the central government.

In many ways both armies were unprepared for war in training and in grand manoeuvres, but yet both sides displayed a Napoleonic tactical flexibility in use of unit formations, skirmishing and different "orders" (e.g. open order) and both armies used conventional, Napoleonic battlefield linear tactics.

At the start of the war in the battles of Palo Alto, Resaca de la Palma and Buena Vista both armies used columns for manoeuvre covered by light infantry deploying to line formation. The Americans used infantry squares to cover their flanks and supported their infantry lines with horse artillery batteries.

As with the South Americans over 30 years before, the Mexicans employed out-dated early fire tactics, which in open, defensive battles was to disadvantage them against the American infantry.

The Americans had a great advantage of very effective artillery; in particular their "flying artillery" (horse artillery batteries) were used to good effect as mobile reserve and to break down the Mexican lines.
By contrast the Mexican artillery was poorly supported, equipped and served. It also contracted civilian drivers, which meant that once it was positioned those positions were fixed.

MichaelCollinsHimself20 Feb 2016 1:07 p.m. PST

The rules are now loaded at the Grand Manoeuvre website shop:

link

daler240D21 Feb 2016 10:01 a.m. PST

great, ordered! One question. Will the solo module be useable with these rules?

MichaelCollinsHimself21 Feb 2016 2:07 p.m. PST

Thanks!

Yes, but as it refers to battle arrays, wings, centre, lines of battle, reserves etc., the solo module would perhaps be more suitable for the larger battles in the wars covered.

It may not suit some of the smaller American and South American battles.

Even though the battle arrays in the solo rules are Napoleonic, you`ll note the armies of the period I`ve chosen were still operating in a "Napoleonic manner".
Perhaps the majority of armies were using French-based regulations which ultimately had their basis in the ordnance of 1791.

The choice of array (by the non-player side) in the solo module ties in with the order types in GM game rules… I just think there might need to be adjustments made for Danish and Prussians in the 1st Schleswig Holstein war to use company columns rather than line formation for "engage" orders – so it may well be do-able !

Best Regards,

Mike.

daler240D22 Feb 2016 12:18 a.m. PST

cool. thanks!

MichaelCollinsHimself24 Feb 2016 9:37 a.m. PST

It will be some time yet before the next C19th rules variants will come… these will include a couple of the more popular wars I guess:

The Crimean War 1853-6
The Italian War of 1859
The American Civil War 1861-5
The Franco-Mexican War 1862-7
The Paraguayan War 1864-70

Until then, a change is as good as a rest and I`ll be working on an ancients version of Grand Manoeuvre.

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