tberry7403 | 05 Nov 2015 10:18 a.m. PST |
The fifth of November The Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason Why the Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. |
Parzival | 05 Nov 2015 10:24 a.m. PST |
Wait— did something happen? |
John Treadaway | 05 Nov 2015 10:33 a.m. PST |
For me, the fun of burning famous figures from history in effigy has been all but subsumed by the rash (over the last ten or more years) of children wandering the streets only a couple of days before hand dressed as Batman or Dracula threatening to egg my house if I don't give them sweeties (or – as they annoyingly sometimes refer to it – "candy"). So – sadly "no reason, Why the Gunpowder Treason, Should ever be forgot…" is sliding into history as impressionable UK children spend far too much time with their noses pressed to the TV screen emulating everything they see on the Disney channel. The horror! What's the Guy Fawkes Night equivalent of the yule-tide "Bah Humbug!" ?? "Get off my lawn"?? John T |
MajorB | 05 Nov 2015 11:11 a.m. PST |
The fifth of November The Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason Why the Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. If you're going to quote the famous rhyme, at least get the words right: "Remember, remember the fifth of November Gunpowder, treason and plot. I see no reason, why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot." link |
Winston Smith | 05 Nov 2015 11:18 a.m. PST |
The last man ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions. |
MajorB | 05 Nov 2015 11:20 a.m. PST |
The last man ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions. Really? And he didn't "enter Parliament" as he wasn't an MP. |
steamingdave47 | 05 Nov 2015 11:30 a.m. PST |
@ John Treadway: I would have posted a link to mandatory dot com pumpkin picture, but it would probably get me DHed |
dampfpanzerwagon | 05 Nov 2015 11:31 a.m. PST |
Scratch builders can pick up some fantastic modelling material following the 5th of November. The wooden sticks of rockets being one of my favourites. Keep an eye out for discarded rockets littering the street this weekend. link Tony (Apologies to John – you know what for!) |
Griefbringer | 05 Nov 2015 11:32 a.m. PST |
How would you game the Gunpowder plot? I guess skirmish rules like Gloire could be useful, but which models to use? |
MajorB | 05 Nov 2015 11:47 a.m. PST |
How would you game the Gunpowder plot? I guess skirmish rules like Gloire could be useful, but which models to use? You could use figures from The Three Musketeers or English Civil War. But it wouldn't be much of a game – one man (Fawkes) vs. a small army of guards… |
bc1745 | 05 Nov 2015 11:50 a.m. PST |
Could skirmish the plotters trying to abduct the princess, Elizabeth?, from her guards at Coombe Abbey?? Forces loyal to the monarchy could then be fed in? Bc1745 |
Cerdic | 05 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m. PST |
Ah, yes. Shame that the American-style celebrating of Halloween has taken off in such a big way. We have our own perfectly good traditional thing at this time of year involving burning a catholic…. |
Winston Smith | 05 Nov 2015 1:23 p.m. PST |
…whether we need it or not. |
tberry7403 | 05 Nov 2015 1:38 p.m. PST |
If you're going to quote the famous rhyme, at least get the words right: That's what I get for relying on my memory. |
John Treadaway | 05 Nov 2015 2:09 p.m. PST |
On the subject of the all pervasiveness of Halloween to the detriment of proper 'Penny for the Guy' shenanigans, I guess we can at least rest on our laurels that the most used (and abused) mask since that one in the scream films is down to our traditional rendition of Mr Fawkes…
I blame V for Vendetta, obviously, though (IMHO) it's a very entertaining film.
John T |
MajorB | 05 Nov 2015 2:46 p.m. PST |
But it wouldn't be much of a game – one man (Fawkes) vs. a small army of guards… Need to either make it a point based affair where the outcome is predetermined (Fawkes caught or killed) but can still win by staying active for X number of turns before that happens(so he can set off the explosives, etc.).
Here's an idea though. Put all the players on the SAME side – each player commands a squad of guards, then they compete to be the team that finds the infamous Mr Fawkes. Of course he could be anywhere in the myriad of store rooms under the Houses of Parliament … and if they don't find him within a given time limit … BOOM!!! |
Zargon | 05 Nov 2015 3:01 p.m. PST |
A truer citizen that ever lived, parliaments hatred is more the demise of this old custom (see all the anti fire and firework laws-that lot do hate overt dissension) than anything else thank the stars for Anonymous keeping the distaste for . Cheers a penny for the Guy? And a pox on parliament;) oh and rot your teeth, All Hallows' Eve is from Europe and its a Christian offshoot from some pagan holiday (aren't they all:) so enjoy lads and ladets PS as a youngster I loved Guy Fawkes night my birthday always started with bangs and rockets, lovely memories. |
Gwydion | 05 Nov 2015 3:33 p.m. PST |
Fawkes was trying to kill the King in Parliament (The House of Lords in fact and not the Commons, although they would have been present at the state opening of Parliament) as he wasn't as pro Roman Catholic as he and Catesby hoped James would be. So hurrah for Parliament and thank the Lord the traitors were discovered. Oh and for a game you could chase the entire gang of conspirators across England, save Princess ELizabeth and have a shoot out at the end with Catesby – much more than just Fawkes involved. |
hocklermp5 | 05 Nov 2015 5:18 p.m. PST |
Ah, bottle rockets. The divine gift to young cretins who loft them skywards on July 4th to come to rest on divinely provided fuel older cretins put on their roof, namely shake shingles. Baked bone dry in the summer sun they burned well and every year the news reported how many houses burned down and now and then entire apartment complexes. Spoil sports enforce the law now and the celebratory unintended conflagrations have ceased. Gone too the days when the nightly news would list the number of hands maimed by surprise explosion of an M-80. A memory sticks with me from the oh-so-forgettable 1950s of a lad who was tossing M-80s out a car window when he dropped one between his legs which Divine Intervention ended any chance he would re-produce to the detriment of mankind. As for "V", a marvelous film in every respect. |
Cerdic | 05 Nov 2015 11:56 p.m. PST |
Rockets are safer in Britain. We use tile or slate on our roofs which don't burn, and they will be wet anyway because it always rains on November 5th….. |
Black Cavalier | 06 Nov 2015 10:20 a.m. PST |
To help corrupt the holiday even further: Remember, remember, the Dalek December With Paris in ruins and London in ember In times of the future when fears are abating Don't try to forget them, the Daleks are waiting Quietly planning and scheming and hating… |