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flashman203 Nov 2015 9:57 a.m. PST

What were the uniforms worn by the Federales in the 1880's-1890"s?
Thank you,
Jim

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2015 11:55 a.m. PST

If you want the Mexican army here you go

link

President Diaz liked old-timey uniforms

I will check if I have any more references

mwindsorfw03 Nov 2015 12:16 p.m. PST

Not sure about reality, but in every Western I've seen, the Federales are wearing khaki uniforms with a khaki cap or straw hat.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2015 12:37 p.m. PST

If I remember my decades old research correctly, khaki uniforms were still in transition during the Pershing Expedition, so no khaki in the late 1800s. During the time asked about I believe the Federales wore dark blue. There may have been a white Summer uniform as well or, at least, white trousers, as Federales could be wearing white trousers and a blue jacket.

mex10mm03 Nov 2015 1:11 p.m. PST

The most common uniform was the dark blue, almost black, doble breasted tunic with blue trousers trimmed in red and a black conical shako with regimental pom pom.
This uniform was used both by the infantry and the cavalry with minimal variations, Infantry used gold buttons and lace and cavalry silver ones.
In summer or in tropical regions a white cotton uniform of the same cut was used.
A white cotton shako cover with neck flap was also used.
The conical shako was sometimes replaced by a shorter more "french" style shako in dark blue wool or white cotton.
Hope this helps.

rmaker03 Nov 2015 5:12 p.m. PST

Note: the Federales were national police, not the army. They were quasi-military (like many Latin American police forces).

Henry Martini03 Nov 2015 7:26 p.m. PST

Wrong: the use of the word Federales to denominate police is a late 20th/21st century practice; in the 19th and early 20th centuries it applied to government military forces.

The double-breasted tunic was a component of the 1898 full-dress uniform, and was still worn in garrison and cool weather during the early stages of the revolution. Khaki wasn't introduced until Huerta's 1913 reforms started to take effect, but uniforms were still in transition by the time he was defeated in mid 1914.

Foundry makes late 19th century Mexican infantry figures. You could feasibly paint their tunics in either dark blue or white.

Botch B22 Dec 2015 11:18 a.m. PST

rmaker is probably confusing 'Federales' (Federals) with 'Rurales'? The latter were para-military police force.

As mex10mm and Henry M say, it was dark blue (red trim for infantry and cavalry) and white, often in combination.

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