ochoin | 22 Oct 2015 11:16 p.m. PST |
The quite prosaic title for this conflict fails to excite and is not even accurate as you can argue the war was of longer duration. It is distinguished by quite a number of alternate names (Third Carnatic War, the French & Indian War, La Guerre de la Conquête etc) which focus on specific theatres. Even at its broadest, this conflict was two, quite different struggles: one centred in central Europe with the campaigns by and against Frederick of Prussia and the other the colonial conflict fought between Britain & her Bourbon enemies. So a suggestion to re-name it is not entirely ludicrous, with the understanding that such a suggestion has not the slightest chance of being accepted (too many books published that use SYW). What are your suggestions? |
Dave Jackson | 22 Oct 2015 11:21 p.m. PST |
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MajorB | 23 Oct 2015 1:57 a.m. PST |
with the understanding that such a suggestion has not the slightest chance of being accepted (too many books published that use SYW). So not a lot of point trying to rename it then … |
Gunfreak | 23 Oct 2015 2:03 a.m. PST |
Lets all bumrush freddy wars |
KTravlos | 23 Oct 2015 2:15 a.m. PST |
What did the contemporaries call it? For example the War of the Roses was the Cousin's War. What was the SYW called at about the time it ended? |
olicana | 23 Oct 2015 2:25 a.m. PST |
Funnily enough, I'm not sure that many gamers call the FIW SYW. They tend to play FIW and, if asked, concede it was set during the SYW, but call it exclusively FIW. SYW in India, on the other hand, even though it is another colonial conflict is called SYW. I wonder why that is? |
Green Tiger | 23 Oct 2015 2:34 a.m. PST |
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langobard | 23 Oct 2015 2:38 a.m. PST |
I'm too busy trying to cling to the title of 'the Dark Ages' without someone trying to shine a little more accurate light on another of my favourite periods! |
daler240D | 23 Oct 2015 3:26 a.m. PST |
well, as an electrical engineer that works in digital systems, we always start counting with 0. So, may I proffer World War 0, since it does not require the renaming of other wars. |
general btsherman | 23 Oct 2015 3:56 a.m. PST |
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Pictors Studio | 23 Oct 2015 3:57 a.m. PST |
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skippy0001 | 23 Oct 2015 4:22 a.m. PST |
The Last Of The Polite Column, Line And Square. |
Supercilius Maximus | 23 Oct 2015 5:05 a.m. PST |
How about re-naming the WAS and SYW as Lace War 1 and Lace War2? |
Gunfreak | 23 Oct 2015 5:15 a.m. PST |
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ochoin | 23 Oct 2015 5:15 a.m. PST |
Actually SM, I think you're onto something. |
15th Hussar | 23 Oct 2015 5:25 a.m. PST |
The Slightly Somewhat Smaller Conflict after the War of Jenkin's Rear? |
Winston Smith | 23 Oct 2015 5:38 a.m. PST |
What does the Colonel tell his troops in 1760? "Hold on men! Less than three more years to go!" |
Who asked this joker | 23 Oct 2015 5:44 a.m. PST |
Lace War2 This is a bad name for me. Every time I see something labeled '2', I want to immediately follow it with either "the Quickening" or "Electric Boogaloo." |
Garde de Paris | 23 Oct 2015 7:50 a.m. PST |
I like Gunfreak's "Let's all bum-rush Freddie!" War idea! (Lucky) 7 Years War meant good luck for Fred the Great, so it's fine as 7YW for me! GdeP |
miniMo | 23 Oct 2015 8:09 a.m. PST |
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Frederick | 23 Oct 2015 8:13 a.m. PST |
I have always called the FIW the SYW, which I recognize is far from universal The First Worldwide War describes it well but I don't see this catching on |
Altefritz | 23 Oct 2015 8:53 a.m. PST |
It seems that the name SYW was given in the late 1770. Before it was simply referred as "the last war". |
KTravlos | 23 Oct 2015 9:13 a.m. PST |
War of Austrian Succession is WW0 :P |
Cailleach | 23 Oct 2015 9:26 a.m. PST |
How about re-naming the WAS and SYW as Lace War 1 and Lace War2? Actually SM, I think you're onto something. Hmmmm, I think Fred and Lil Funcken have beat you to it. |
The Beast Rampant | 23 Oct 2015 9:52 a.m. PST |
It's a catchy name. And everybody likes seven. What short summation of ANYTHING in history is not, when it comes right down to it, inaccurate? I'm more for calling it the 7YW, which is more concise, and used exactly the same number of characters. There, tweet that. |
Dye4minis | 23 Oct 2015 9:53 a.m. PST |
Fredrican War(s) (WAS and SYW)? |
Dan Wideman II | 23 Oct 2015 11:42 a.m. PST |
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OldGrenadier at work | 23 Oct 2015 11:55 a.m. PST |
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Brownbear | 23 Oct 2015 12:36 p.m. PST |
why change a familiar name which everyone knows and understand |
Bill N | 23 Oct 2015 1:09 p.m. PST |
How about 'Bob'? You have my vote. |
14Bore | 23 Oct 2015 3:39 p.m. PST |
As far as I know it is correctly the 2nd Silesian war if not the seven years war. |
PentexRX8 | 23 Oct 2015 6:49 p.m. PST |
The War of Global Domination. |
dbf1676 | 23 Oct 2015 7:57 p.m. PST |
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Texas Jack | 24 Oct 2015 5:27 a.m. PST |
I like Bob as well, though for me Clark is a close second. |
marco56 | 24 Oct 2015 11:38 a.m. PST |
How about the Washington's War since he started it. Mark |
Musketier | 24 Oct 2015 12:19 p.m. PST |
Technically, "Silesian Wars" applies to the conflict between Austria and Prussia over that duchy. In that logic, 1756-63 was the Third (First: 1740-42, Second: 1744-45). The conflict between Britain and France interacted with these, but had other origins and simmered on, leading some historians to speak of another Hundred Years' War. |
spontoon | 24 Oct 2015 3:25 p.m. PST |
First War of Prussian Aggression? |
vtsaogames | 24 Oct 2015 5:44 p.m. PST |
While the fracas in the colonies lasted 7 years, it was a different 7 years than that in Europe. Colonies : 1754 to 1760. Europe : 1756 to 1762. The British war against Spain in the Caribbean goes until 1762. |
Herkybird | 25 Oct 2015 2:45 p.m. PST |
The war of Leuthen, Rossbach and Minden! |
Old Contemptibles | 26 Oct 2015 2:14 p.m. PST |
Too late to change it. There is nothing wrong with the name Seven Years War. This isn't a popularity contest and we are not Madison Avenue. It is what it is. |
Yellow Admiral | 28 Oct 2015 12:09 a.m. PST |
The War of Jenkins Other Ear. - Ix |
John Treadaway | 28 Oct 2015 11:04 a.m. PST |
I'm still trying to get the "Wars of the Roses" labelled as ECW1 so that I an stop opening WotR threads expecting a Tolkieneque "War of the Ring" piece and having to hide both my disappointment and shame…. So… beats me! John T |
Der Alte Fritz | 28 Oct 2015 1:31 p.m. PST |
I really really dislike the name "Lace War(s)". It makes me think of a lingerie catalogue or something similar. Third Silesian War would be correct if we were to continue in that vein. I recall that the British simply referred to their section of the conflict in Europe as "the war in Germany." |
Old Contemptibles | 29 Oct 2015 6:19 p.m. PST |
Lingerie? I vote we call all wars Lace Wars. |
Musketier | 02 Nov 2015 11:22 a.m. PST |
Disliking lingerie is definitely not in keeping with the period! Oh, wait – unless you're Frederick the Great of course. There is such a thing as getting too much into character, I suppose… |
Last Hussar | 02 Nov 2015 3:08 p.m. PST |
Who Asked This Joker - Lace War 2, the Quickening Boogaloo! |
Last Hussar | 02 Nov 2015 3:09 p.m. PST |
John – 'Roses' should be English Civil War II, with the ECW as ECW III, but divided into Part 1 and Part 2 (Electric Boogaloo) |