"Star Wars, logistics, and the X-Wing" Topic

Or why the Resistance has only the T-70

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I just figured they were still paying off the debt for the F-35s

It's an Xwing. The iconic fighter of the Rebels.

Of course it's going to be the primary craft shown in the trailers, just like the Valkyrie was the primary craft shown on Macross/Robotech.

Let's see…

HOW MANY TOYS DO THEY WANT TO SELL?

Yeah… there will be other ships.

Logistics is a good thing, and so is mission specialization of design (ie., jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none or Use The Right Tool For The Job?).

And what Ghostrunner said… which is good for all of us….

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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We don't really know the whole story. Perhaps at the time of the second trilogy, the X-Wings were the latest top of the line fighters while the Y-Wings, A-Wings and B-wings were older models, still effective in the right hands, but no longer in production. By the time of this new movie only the upgraded X-wings are still around.

Personally, I'd love to see the older stuff still in use. I was rather disappointed that in the first trilogy the Imperial capital ships were different from the star destroyers we see in the second trilogy. When I think back to the age of sail where ships of the line might remain in service for 70 or 80 years, it would be entirely reasonable for the massive star destroyers to have been in use for centuries.

@Scott Washburn
I'm guessing that you're not a Star Wars fan then?

Otherwise you woul have known that whilst the Y-Wings were indeed ancient, the X-Wings were newish (being developed after the end of the Clone Wars), whilst the A and B Wings were brand spanking new , having been introduced between the Battles of Yavin and Endor.

Oh, I've been a Star Wars fan from Day 1 :) Saw the first one 19 times in the theater. And I know that we don't see the A or B Wings in the first or second film, but that doesn't mean they weren't around. I suppose that there might be some "offical" sources out there that say otherwise, but I don't give them much heed. For me the only official sources are the films themselves.

If the rationale that A and B Wings were older models works for you, and you choose to ignore any other sources of information. then fair enough.

I doubt anything I, or anyone else, said would change your opinion.

MTFBWY

Oh, I am perfectly capable of changing my opinion. I merely proposed this as a possible answer to the OP's question. Another answer would be that at some point during the war the factories which made the A and B wings were destroyed and never rebuilt. Lots of possibilities.

A-Wings are scouts and interceptors and more likely to be placed in space warships where they can protect the ship from Tie Bombers and Gunships as well as patrol faster than the X-Wing could.

B-Wings are Heavy Bombers and again, are more likely to be attached to a fleet where the main concern may be enemy ships.

All the combat in the trailers are seen in the atmosphere. I don't see a problem with that. We may yet still see them in the movie. I don't think we see Tie Interceptor or Bombers either…..

I believe some Y-wings were in the Clone Wars, specifically the Malevolent part where Grievous had the massive battleship with a huge fleet immobilizing ion cannon.
Anakin commanded a squadron of Y-wing to disable the ion cannon.

Actually, I DO sort of have a problem seeing X-Wings and Tie Fighters operating in an atmosphere. If they can do that effectively (clearly they can take of and land in an atmosphere, but fight?) then why didn't we see them doing that in the first movies?

because there was no need to show atmospheric combat in the first three since the battle of yavin 4 was a pure space battle at the battle of hoth the x-wings and other space fighters they may have had where needed to escort the transports and where unavailable for ground support and at the battle of endor the plan was for the main battle to be a space one and even with a unplanned ground battle all air/space assets got tied up facing a equally unexpected enemy fleet

Also the new T-70 X-Wing is more advanced than the T=65 version seen in the Original Trilogy.

At the battle of Hoth the Rebel pilots used the T-47 Snowspeeders in initial attack on Imperil AT-AT's before switching to X-Wings to leave atmosphere and fly off to join the fleet.

It may be that Incom improved the t-70 so that can function more effectively in atmosphere.

Switching Universes it may be similar to Babylon 5 where the initial Starfury was space fighetr only whilst the newer Thunderbolt had full atnosphereic capability.

Or it may just be plot enabled…..

It's been what 30-40 years since Return?

We still have fighters and other planes in operation around the world that are also 40 years Old, I mean the B52 is clsoe to 250 years now, first used during the battle of Yorktown.

The B-52? More like 1,358 years, but who's counting… and I am old enough to have read sci-fi tales that made mention of ships two hundred or so years old still schlepping around the frontiers scaring the colonists because out in the boonies there wasn't much of anything bigger or badder than a two hundred year old superdreadnought…

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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I'm guessing someone just wanted to make his mark on star wars ;).

I mean, there's no rebellion, it's the resistance, there's no Empire there's the first order. I think they're trying to update the look without messing with the original content.

For the same reason that you only saw X and Y-wings in ep4.

According to Pablo Hidalgo (one of the keepers of the canon, LSG) – that was only ONE rebel "cell" in ep4. Leia/Dodonna's mob. That's all they had access to. In Jedi, it was the whole assembled rebel fleet, with A, B, X, Y and ampersand wings, as well as all the frigates, cruisers, etc.