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nevinsrip15 Oct 2015 2:56 a.m. PST

I don't use enamel paint much. I had a bunch of wagons and carts that I was going to paint as raw wood. My plan was to spray prime Walmart flat black, then spray with Testor's Wood Tan. After that a wash of Devlan Mud and a drybrush of a light cream.

The enamel paint dried to a sheen and looks like it will repel the wash, rather than to allow it to settle into the recesses.
Do I need to Dulcote the wagons before washing with the
D-Mud?

Or?

dBerczerk15 Oct 2015 3:47 a.m. PST

Or, you might try the "drybrush of a light cream," and then the "wash of Devlan Mud."

jeffreyw315 Oct 2015 4:18 a.m. PST

A gloss finish typically has a much smoother surface than a flat finish, so it tends to make washes more "effective" as there is less surface resistance. I believe you'll find that Dulcote will have the opposite effect from what you're looking for.

One approach would be to test and see if the Devlan Mud is working as you wish on the tan. If it isn't, gloss coat the carts and wash. If the drybrush afterwards is too contrasty, you can rewash until you get what you want. Finally, Dulcote at the end.

I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions. grin

Winston Smith15 Oct 2015 6:35 a.m. PST

I don't like Testor's Wood Tan spray precisely because it's gloss, and therefore useless.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2015 6:51 a.m. PST

But as Jeffrey stated, you really need a smooth surface to allow the wash to get down in the cracks and crevasses and not "stain" the flat surfaces. His description of the process is basically the same way I've done figures and it works much better with a smooth surface.

Jim

Goober15 Oct 2015 7:33 a.m. PST

I find with a gloss surface that multiple, thinner washes are better. A matt surface will tens to grab the wash on all areas to a greater or lesser extent, but gloss will, as previous posters suggest, sink into the crevices more.

Early morning writer15 Oct 2015 5:12 p.m. PST

Curious, I would never think to use a gloss on a figure other than as a protective coat before dull coat. Or on certain metal details. Not saying previous posters are incorrect but I'm unconvinced.

jeffreyw315 Oct 2015 6:55 p.m. PST
Durban Gamer16 Oct 2015 5:19 a.m. PST

I use Windsor & Newton Blue-Black oil paint dab mixed with liquin then add about x20 W & N high quality distilled turpentine. Makes a lovely subtle, shadowy wash over either enamel or acrylic. Use it weak, not strong, figures upright, and watch for any possible pooling. A magic improvement to your figs!

jeffreyw316 Oct 2015 7:29 a.m. PST

Yeah, the scale guys are all about oil washes…I'll have to pickup some Payne's grey and play around.

nevinsrip17 Oct 2015 2:39 p.m. PST

All of you who claimed that the wash would work a treat are CORRECT.

Best results that I have ever had.

Who knew??

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