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Visceral Impact Studios07 Oct 2015 8:05 a.m. PST

OK, I give up.

Having a devil of a time getting detailed, current TO&E on the HBCT combat engineer platoon.

The only source I have shows 3 squads and 4x M113s (1 per squad plus command M113).

Note that we're talking about the CE platoon in an HBCT engineer company (not the 3rd/support platoon in same company). Anyone have a source for weapons and gear? Are they still using the M113 in that platoon?

In the absence of additional information I'd assume that the squads don't have M249s, M240s, etc. and are limited to M4/16s, but would probably have access to M203s and AT-4s as needed.

Thanks!

twawaddell07 Oct 2015 4:07 p.m. PST

Try having a look at this. It's for current formations so you'd have to swap M113 A3's for the Bradley CEV's but otherwise it's pretty good!

PDF link

Lion in the Stars07 Oct 2015 11:48 p.m. PST

National guard unit, but the CE types of the 116th Cav (or whatever the hell they're called now) still have M113s in the armory.

Full set of M4/M16/SAW/M320 in the squads, though. Pretty sure they dug out some old M14s for DMR usage, too.

Visceral Impact Studios08 Oct 2015 5:17 a.m. PST

Thanks!

Page 89 (!) of twawaddell's document shows 4x Bradleys per platoon rather than M113s. And to Lion's point it shows M4s and and M320 as well as 1 M240 per squad. Level of detail even shows a shotgun, type of comms, and night vision gear down to model number. Amazing! (And a little weird when you think about it…we seem to publish an awful lot of detail about our military online…)

twawaddell09 Oct 2015 10:39 a.m. PST

The link above appears to be from a powerpoint presentation made by an officer on the new brigade structures in the U.S. Army. Yes, Visceral Impact Studios is entirely correct, we publish enormous amounts of information on our military. The only question is how accurate it is given how the U.S. Military loves to "add" other elements when it sends a unit to war. However, it is a good starting point!

Lion in the Stars09 Oct 2015 9:13 p.m. PST

The proper term is "cross-attach", and sometimes even that is talked about. For example, every single Stryker battalion is supposed to have an attached USAF ground tactical air controller assigned, and that's in the FM.

Gives a bit of warning as to just how large a can of whoop-ass someone might be facing. evil grin

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