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Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 6:25 a.m. PST

Does the main rule book for Luftwaffe 46 cover planes and bombers from earlier in the war, such as Battle of Britain? Late war? Or just the what-if planes?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 7:11 a.m. PST

Late war yes, B of B not that I can recall. Busy at the moment, but I'll try and dig a copy out this evening and tap out a list.

Dom.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 7:47 a.m. PST

I would highly appreciate that, Dom!

Mako1106 Oct 2015 10:06 a.m. PST

Just 2 – 3 "what-if" planes, IIRC, sadly.

Swarmaster1 Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 11:10 a.m. PST

Correction to Mako11 – Luftwaffe 1946 Miniatures has over 425 different aircraft, historical and what-if, from 1930 through the present day. It is the largest range of 1/300th aircraft in the world.

Our current rule sets include historical and what-if aircraft combat from 1937-1946. We have stats available for over 100 aircraft, and a downloadable spreadsheet so you can generate stats for any aircraft you want to use.

I will happily send a current catalog to anyone who requests one. We also have downloadable scenarios, stat sheets, etc.

The website is: luftwaffe1946.com

Darkest Star Games Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 12:31 p.m. PST

Am I the only one that doesn't see any pix on the Luft 46 site?

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 1:39 p.m. PST

I was asking about the aircraft cards that are included in the main Luft 46 rule book, not about the available miniatures. :-)

I realize the old Blue Sky rule books cover aircraft cards for the entire war. I've been under the impression that the Luft 46 rule book was an updated version of the Blue Sky series and if my memory is right I've seen it recommended as the best version of the game. That's why I'm wondering if Luft 46 actually covers stats for normal war planes, like those of BoB. Or must I also get the older books for those. I've always been a bit confused about the BS and L46 series. I hope that makes sense. :-)

BTW I've played the Black Cross Blue Sky game at cons, but have never been able to pull the trigger and buy it for $125. USD (I seem to keep missing it at a decent price for a used copy here in the US!) I've never been able to play L46.

Allen5706 Oct 2015 2:18 p.m. PST

I have Luft46 around somewhere. If Dom does not come up with a list I will look for my copy.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 3:00 p.m. PST

Just got in. I CBA typing out what's in all of the books, but the main L46 rulebook has mainly late war historical stuff, with a smattering of prototypes and drawing board models:

Ar-234, Ar-555, Ba-349, BV-208/3, BV-222C, Do-335A, Fi-103 (V1), Fi-103R, Triebflugel, FW-190A-8, FW-190D, He-162, He-177, He-219, Ho-229, Ju-88C, Ju-88G, Me-109F-3, Me-109G-6, Me-110G, Me-163, Me-210, Me-262, Me-263, Me-410A, Ta-152H, Ta-183.

N1K2-J, Ki-61, A6M5.

Lancaster, Beaufighter, Meteor I & III, Mosquito VI & PR.XVI, Spitfire IX & XIV, Typhoon, Tempest II, Whirlwind.

A-20G, AD-1, B-17E, F & G, B-24D & J, B-25J, B-29A & A-1, C-46, C-47, F4F, F6F, F7F, P-38J, P-39Q, P-40N, P-47B & D, P-51B & D, P-58 Chain Lightning (2 Variants), P-59A, P-63C, P-80A, P-82, PBY, TBF.

La-7, Yak-9, Yak-9U.

Obviously the Luftsturm and Amerika Bomber supplements add lots more, with more emphasis on '46 types rather than planes that really had wartime service.

Kamikaze '46 is similar to Luftwaffe '46 in having lots of historical types and being a stand-alone rulebook rather than needing anything else to play.

Finally, and crucially, the stats are calculated by number-crunching performance figures, wing loadings etc rather than gut call, and Marty's happy to share the spreadsheet, so if you're even moderately competent with Excel, you're well away…. :-) Of course this approach occasionally throws up a number that jars with real world reports and needs a quick fudge, but it means it's easy to run up stats for whatever you need.

(I must confess I've even taken to dismembering the system to produce more graduated stats for early war games, which was surprisingly straightforward.)

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2015 3:11 p.m. PST

If you ask the author, he'll send you the data sheets for the early war stuff. Basically the system is sort of a 1.1 version of the Black Cross/Blue Sky series of games, so the data would be very similar.

Allen5706 Oct 2015 5:33 p.m. PST

BTW it is a great game series. I just wish more of the 46 stuff was available in 1/600.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2015 2:46 p.m. PST

Thank you, Dom! I'll shoot them an email. BTW On their home page they mention a link for downloads of stats and such, but there is no link!

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