"Eli Roth Has a Data-Driven Vision for Cinema’s Future" Topic
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Tango01 | 25 Sep 2015 12:58 p.m. PST |
"If you haven't heard about Eli Roth's new movie, The Green Inferno, it's probably because he didn't need you to. And even if you don't like R-rated cannibal horror that recalls 1970s Italian splatter cinema, you should probably root for the movie to succeed. It could be a make or break moment for the future of independent film. To understand why that's true—to understand how a movie about people eating and torturing each other in the South American rainforest can effect anyone besides a few reprehensibly blood-lusty Roth fans—we need to go back in time. At this year's South by Southwest, writer/actor/director/mogul/savior Mark Duplass was tapped to deliver the keynote address. During the hour-long address he repeated one line over and over again: "The cavalry is not coming." The industry, he warned, was no longer equipped to sponsor and/or support young talent the way it did for, say, a young Quentin Tarantino in the age of Reservoir Dogs. The Green Inferno could be a make or break moment for the future of independent film. — But after offering a litany of warnings about the dire state of indie movies, Duplass finally delivered some relief: "The good news is, who gives a about the cavalry? Because now you are the cavalry." And thus we circle back to Eli Roth, whose latest gore fest is using heavy data mining and targeted marketing to most efficiently tease out the optimal market for his unique brand of cinematic experience. Where Mark Duplass and his brother Jay operate using the "available materials school of filmmaking" with a focus on alternative distribution channels like Netflix, Roth's approach is to use 2015 technology to optimize box office returns by keeping marketing costs as low as possible…" From main page link Amicalement Armand |
Legion 4 | 25 Sep 2015 1:41 p.m. PST |
Didn't see the Italian made "Cannibal Apocalypse", the pics online were bad enough. I didn't see Hostel or Hostel 2 and I won't see Green Inferno. Guys like Roth needs therapy. Who in their right mind wants to watch such crap ? Obviously those that like these kind of movies need therapy too, IMO … |
Crazyivanov | 25 Sep 2015 2:01 p.m. PST |
Legion, I saw the original Hostel, and while I cringed and groaned through the torture scenes I understood why it works as a horror movie. The best horror films work as a cathartic vengeance against those modern lifestyles and habits that get under the skin of the viewer: in Hostel it was rich jerks partying through Europe, in Friday the Thirteenth it was camp counselors more interested in drinking and whoring than the care of children, in Zombeevers it was depraved college students generally. And now Green Inferno turns the knife on #activism. This may be the moment where the torture porn genre grows up and becomes a real medium as opposed to the Saw sequel cash machine it is now. |
Legion 4 | 25 Sep 2015 2:15 p.m. PST |
Been watching Horror movies since I was a child. Many decades ago. Saw all the classics and many of the later ones … Never saw Friday the 13th, Jason, Texas Chainsaw, SAW, etc., etc. … the previews were enough for me there too. I find torture porn very disturbing, and again, that is only seeing previews, etc. … That kind of "entertainment" just not work for me. If the movie's message is about "cathartic vengeance against those modern lifestyles", etc. … IMO there is a more, less gruesome, grisly, bloody, etc., way to do it. Real writers and authors etc., know how to do it without the gore, etc. … The "slice and dice" genre is like the porn industry … it's all about the $$$. Which I understand how the economics of it works. But normally I like my sex/porn and violence as separate entities. Not in the same movie. But that is just me … I always say, one should do what works for them … not me. Torturing and dismembering just does not work for me … |
skippy0001 | 25 Sep 2015 6:26 p.m. PST |
Give me Karloff, Lorre or Price or give me a gruesome death by a villain that had REASONS for his/her actions, that expressed depth of character, that made you FEEL and UNDERSTAND why. And in the end, you're just not completely sure the heroes got him….. |
doug redshirt | 25 Sep 2015 6:29 p.m. PST |
Stopped watching horror when Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing stopped appearing in them. |
Legion 4 | 26 Sep 2015 6:24 a.m. PST |
Agree skippy and doug … This crap that some slice & dice smut peddlers pass off as entertainment is just …well … crap. You can put lips stick on a pig and it's still a pig. |
Tango01 | 26 Sep 2015 10:36 a.m. PST |
I like Stephen King books/films… Amicalement Armand |
Legion 4 | 27 Sep 2015 11:49 a.m. PST |
No I'm not … but I have an opinion. For better or worse … |
capncarp | 08 Oct 2015 6:14 a.m. PST |
So…are we supposed to seek these things out, just to prove we are in the "In" crowd? Reverse psychology works, too. But, I, too, feel no real draw to see even a cutting-edge (sorry!) chunk-blowing cannibal gut-muncher of a film. |
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