| Tango01 | 23 Sep 2015 10:43 p.m. PST |
…in Syria: Who Wins? "Russia is deploying advanced air defense systems to Syria as part of its military build up inside the war-torn country. While it is currently deploying point defense missiles, it's possible Russian forces could deploy more capable area air defense systems like the much-feared Almaz-Antey S-300 to the region. If Russia does deploy their latest surface-to-air missiles (SAM) to Syria, the areas protected by these systems would become no-go zones for most allied aircraft save for the F-22 Raptor and B-2 Spirit—and the F-35, if that warplane was genuinely operational. Russian forces have already deployed two to three SA-22 Greyhound—more properly called the Pantsir-S1—point defense systems around their base in Latakia, Syria, along with as many as 28 fighters and strike aircraft. The highly mobile Pantsir-S1 is primarily designed to protect a small area against a threat with a pair of 2A38M 30mm cannons and a dozen 57E6 surface-to-air missiles. According to its manufacturer, it has a 12-mile range and can engage targets as high a 60,000ft…"
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| Mako11 | 24 Sep 2015 2:12 a.m. PST |
The side with the sub-launched cruise missiles that take out the S-300 sites, and other targets, before any aircraft get near. Ah, someone hasn't see the F-35 "operational testing" report. |
| Garth in the Park | 24 Sep 2015 4:06 a.m. PST |
Why in the name of Sweet Baby Jeebus would NATO ever consider striking the Russians in Syria? When one of your rivals goes to war with one of your opponents, it's time to take a coffee break and watch the show. Every man and ruble the Russians throw into that disaster is one that won't show up in Europe. Meanwhile: what is the effectiveness of all those Russian SAMs against a 19-year-old with a truck bomb? |
| mandt2 | 24 Sep 2015 6:12 a.m. PST |
What Mako said. Though as I said in another thread, If Russia wants to take a stab at it on there own, more power to them. I think we should just sit back and watch the train wreck. That said, it does make for some interesting gaming possibilities. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 24 Sep 2015 8:14 a.m. PST |
The F-22/B-2 combo should prevail.The article answered its own question in its description of the tactics developed to take out the S-300's. |
Tgerritsen  | 24 Sep 2015 9:35 a.m. PST |
Isn't the bigger question, "Why does Russia need advanced air defense missiles in Syria?" ISIS doesn't have an air force. Who are they intending to defend against? There's a zero chance the West would target Russian forces in Syria in the current circumstances. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 24 Sep 2015 10:20 a.m. PST |
Isn't the bigger question, "Why does Russia need advanced air defense missiles in Syria? Probably to deter Israel from indiscriminately bombing the Syrian army under the pretext of stopping arms transfers to the Hezbollah, or a western coalition to impose an ill-advised no-fly zone and thereby make the same mistake it did in Libya. That's why Israel and the US were in discussion with Russia to work out mechanisms to avoid accidental conflict. |
| Lion in the Stars | 24 Sep 2015 10:39 a.m. PST |
The US/Israel/Russia discussions can best be summed up as, "We don't want to stop each other from killing DAESHbags, what can we do to make sure that doesn't happen?" |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 24 Sep 2015 11:10 a.m. PST |
Yes, it focuses all efforts on fighting ISIS and other extremists while preventing all sides from attacking other parties (Assad, the moderate rebels, etc.). |
| cwlinsj | 24 Sep 2015 12:46 p.m. PST |
Why in the name of Sweet Baby Jeebus would NATO ever consider striking the Russians in Syria? When one of your rivals goes to war with one of your opponents, it's time to take a coffee break and watch the show. Every man and ruble the Russians throw into that disaster is one that won't show up in Europe. Perhaps because NATO remembers that when Russians went to liberate E. Europe, they overstayed their welcome by 46 years. We could also discuss their record of liberating Afghanistan, Chechnya, Moldava, Georgia and Crimea. |
| Mako11 | 24 Sep 2015 2:33 p.m. PST |
Yep, time to replenish the popcorn for me. Those SAMs could also be there to keep the USA/NATO from enforcing a "no-fly" zone as well, over Syria. |
| David Manley | 24 Sep 2015 9:29 p.m. PST |
"Can we just sit back and drink that coffee ???? Sorry Guys but I'm really tired of the USA being the worlds cop…." Probably how quite a few Brits felt for the hundred years+ that we had the job :) |
| twawaddell | 25 Sep 2015 9:26 a.m. PST |
I suspect that the Russian ADA systems going in are due to bureaucracy more than anything else. The manual says when you build an airbase you add x, y, and z defense systems. Russia has had advisors in Syria for decades. Based on what I've been seeing in the news the Russians intervened to prop Assad up. |
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