"What's in your battlegroup??" Topic

I know a lot of us have been watching Jack playing with his 6mm toys and having a ball, and maybe wishing we had our forces up to speed. That's me for sure!

So I have to ask, what forces do you have waiting to get painted up to join your battle groups for some Cold War/Hot gaming? And, while you're at it, what period are you shooting for??

Me personally I'm shooting for a blind of the real world with a nice mix of Sir John's WWIII forces for good measure. My date will be August 1985!

So right now I have:

USA

I wish I had a master plan, but honestly I'm picking up the "oh shiney" things I see on Ebay. I'll probably model the 11th ACR as shown by Sir John, but the main force will be my old outfit: 1st ID. You just HAVE to field the Big Red One if you're doing the US Army (got that Jack???). So my force will probably serve as a ACAV troop and as a part of a mechanized/armored company team with a focus on the retro side of 1985.

16 M551 Sheridans (for my armored cav- I'm going to pretend with Sir John that the Sheridans were decent vehicles!)

10 M60 A3s. I love the dinosaur so it's going to be my MBT.

10 M113s (kind of weak, but I'm getting more sooner or later)

2 M163 AAAs (gotta have that top cover)

2 M106s (mortars for support and when I form ACAV platoons)

2 Packs of US infantry (individual rifles and weapons troops- gotta have grunts)

12 M2 or M3 Brads. I've had these guys for a while but they're in a box somewhere. I might dig them out to fill out my mech infantry and slip them in for battalion cavalry platoons.

1 M577. Have to have a TOC!

On order: 5 M1 Abrams. Hey, I'm an old IP dude, so I've got to have my war pigs! 2 AH-1 Cobras… gotta love the retro Snakes.

Soviet

So I'm a little better organized here! But still, no real master plan than a vague "I'm collecting a Soviet mechanized force". But if I had to fit them into a niche then they are part of a Soviet tank division. The BMPs see to that.

10 T-72M1 MBTs. Hey, again, I'm working with Sir John here.

16 BMP-1. That ties me with the tank division idea.

12 T-62 MBTs. So I found this deal on Ebay that I couldn't refuse!
Maybe they're East German or a second line tank division.

3 T-74 MBTs. Was there really such a thing? I guess they'll just be another T-72 tank platoon.

2 BTR-80s. Okay, they came with my T62s so I'm stuck with them. I guess they will be the start of an ultra-modern force or a late Cold War force if I ever get around to it.

2 packs of individual Soviet infantry… I ordered them from Warweb, so I'm not really in a rush to get them, right?

I might get one of these to round things out:

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And so I can have a few infantry to tied me over until the Warweb troopies show up.

Buried deep in a box I have a company of Challenger Is and Warriors that might come out to play one day. But I would rather have Chieftains and FV 432s though!

I plan to base all of my toys on old Flames of War small bases. I prefer mounting my vehicles rather than leaving them loose. But I will probably go with pennies for my grunts.

So how about you? What's in your battlegroup??

Sorry navy types… the site glitched on me and dumped me here. Oh well, anchors away and all that. Maybe someone is collecting Marines???

Hmmm, haven't looked in a while, but a mix of 6mm Americans, British, and West Germans, to oppose the Soviets/W.P..

A mix of early, mid, and late Cold War types.

A few are even painted, but most are not, sadly.

Some of the plastic, pre-paints for both sides, in 1/144th. Mainly tanks, since that's what's available, plus a few IFVs and some unpainted troops too. Americans, Soviets, and West Germans. Need some of those beautiful Chieftains.

In 15mm, a lot of Bundeswehr, a few Americans (US Armored Cav – M551s), and some PT-76s, and a pair of Hinds. Need a lot more commie stuff, and Americans and Brits. Have West Germans troops too, but need others.

Since I started in the early 80's, my 1985 era is largely complete. I have lots done. US, USSR, Poland, Czechs, UK, FRG, French, Danish, Israel, arab, etc. As for 1990s and beyond, too many yet to paint to list.

No modern naval, missiles take all the fun out of it.

Cold War on the ground? Well, I wanna do "Coldest War:" Swedes and Soviet VDV. Waiting for Geoff to release the S-Tank and PBv302.

Ultramodern ground is all for the Sandbox and Asscrackistan. Americans from QRF, Stryker platoon. I need someone to make the other Strykers (Mortar carrier, ambulance, ATGM, and MGS. Everything else can be built on the ICV chassis)

I have Vietnam in 15mm, and then WW2 in 15mm.

For CD Soviets: an MRR with BMP and another with BTRs. A TR with T72 and a battalion of T55.

NATO: US BN of M1, M60, M2, 2 BN of M113, FRG, BN of Leo1, Leo2 and Markers. Throw in some UK Challengers and Saxons and MICV

All 15mm

Naval – 1/700 scale – MNB
US Carrier group made another to come
Sov FAC flotillas with an ASW group made with two Kiev based battle groups to come
UK to come two Invinsible battle groups

Land in 20mm for CD-TOB
US M113 mech Bn, M-60 Bn, Marine M-1/LVP Bn, ACAV troop, Airmobile Bn
WarPac MRR BMP/T-72, MRR BTR/T-62, Airmobile Bn
NATO 2 Leo Bn, Marder/M113 Bn, Centurion Bn, various sqns and coys
VC/NVA Bn
Lots more
Plus WW2 for lots more..

Lion, you need some missile boats.

Great fun in the missile age!

Recommended, with the scale(s) you prefer, and Bulldogs Away, or Shipwreck for the rules.

Going historically accurate with a battlegroup based on 1RS from 33 (UK) Armd Bde, or could add 4 Warriors and base it on 1QLR in 1986!

As for the Sovs again gone for either a Regiment from 7 Guards MRD or 10 Guards TD, both 3SA. These chaps will also make an appearance now I am working on 11 ACR:

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Near by is a T-80/BTR60 MRR and just down the road a T-80/BMP MRR.

As for T-72 and T-55, some elements of the NVA will make an appearance.

And plenty of variety with Belgians and Bundeswehr chucked in!
My time in BAOR so based on the historical Orbats and TO&E and not a book.

Tally Ho!

Heres Mikey
Team Yankie
1/285th
2 M1(105) Combat team Hqs
2 M151 Jeep
Maint Section
1 M151 Jeep
1 M35 2 1/2 ton
1 M113
1 M88 ARV
1 M113 Medic track
8 M1 (105) x2 tank Platoon
4 M113 Mech Platoon.
1 FIST (M901)
2 M901 ITV
Soviet Foward security element (Not complete)
2 Motorcycle LRR
2 BRDM2
4 T72 w/ERA
10 BMP
2 SA9/13 on MTLB
1 BMPR with small fred
On order or planed purchase
ZSU 23/4
2S1 SP 122MM
T64B
Id rather do Brits but GHQ has let me down badly no abbot or infantry or MCT,UBRE and on and on..

Perhaps Battle-group is the wrong term as I built my Micro armour forces up to regimental and brigade levels. This is what I have:

1 x Soviet Tank Btn T-55.
1 x Soviet MRD tank Btn T- 64
1 x Soviet Tank Regiment T-80
1 x Soviet MRD Tank Regiment T-72
2 x Soviet MRD Tank Btns T-62
1 x Soviet MRD Mech. Regiment BMP-1
1 x Soviet MRD Mech. Regiment BTR-60PB/80
1 x Soviet MRD Mech. Regiment OT-64/BTR-60PB
1 x Soviet MRD Mech. Regiment BMP-2/MTLB
1 x Soviet Recce Btn.
4 x Soviet SP 122 mm How Btns.
2 x Soviet SP 152 mm How. Btns.
2 x Soviet GRAD Rocket Btns.
1 x FROG/SCUD Btn.
Scads of Soviet towed ATG and Towed Artilley
1 x PT-76 Amph. Tank Btn.
1 x ASU-85 SPG Btn.
2 x Soviet Airmobile Mech. Btns BMD-1/BMD-2
All the Engineering and Bridging/Ferrying kit for a MRD.
All the SAM units for a Soviet MRD SA-6/SA-8/SA-9/ SA-13
1 x US Mech. Inf. Brig. M-60/M-113
1 x US Mech. Inf. Brig. M1A1/M-2 Bradley.
1X US Aero-weapons Sqn. Apache, Kiowa, Blackhawks.
1 x German Mech. Inf. Brig. Leopard 2/Marder-1.
1 x Fench Mech. Inf. Brig. AMX-30/AMX-40/AMX-10P/VAB's
1 x French ERC-90 Regt.
1 x French AMX-10RC Regt.
1 x Canadian Mech. Inf. Brig. Leopard 1A5/M-113
1 x Canadian Mech. Inf. Btn sized Battle Group – Cougar/Grizzly
1 x British Mech. Inf. Brig. Chieftain/FV-432
1 x British Tank Brig. Challenger 1 and 2/MICV-80
1 x British Recce Regt. Scimitar family of vehicles.
Asst. USMC Btns LAV/M-60/LTVP-7
1 x Dutch Mech. Inf. Btn. YPR's
1 x Yugoslavian Mech. Inf. Btn
Asst. Chinese, Austrian and S. African Kit
Lots and lots of trucks.
Helicopters and Aircraft Galore.

Strangely I have no infantry as when I played in the eighties and early nineties we used cardboard chits to represent dismounted infantry.

Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

I made a command decision to focus on 20mm as I found that in micro I didn't used my forces as well – I tended to expend them in a more cavalier fashion – I lacked empathy for my micro soldiers fate and so I sold them to buy more 20mm.
In micro for CD I had:
Soviet MR division T-64 BTR-60 complete with FROG and helicopter support
Syrian Tank Division T-62/T-55 BMP-1/BTR-50
Israeli Armoured Bde

That's OK, their hasn't been much new in the Navy postings for a while.

I can field the following
US 1/11th ACR
2nd BDE 3rd AD
(2x Abrams BN's) – 4/8 Cav and 3/8 Cav
(1x Bradley Inf Bn.) 1/48 Inf.
Plus support elements ADA and Arty.
Can also field an AH64 and AH1 atk to Aviation Bn as well.
M60 National Guard Bn.
W.German
A LEO 2 Panzer BDE
A PzG BDE (Marder)
British
17th/21st Lancers
Challenger 1 Bn
Warrior mounted Inf Bn.
Canadian Lav mounted Inf Bn
Soviet BMP MRD
Soviet T80 TD
E.German T72 ITB
Soviet Div. Arty Group
Mi24 Atk Regt
Mi28 Atk Co.
Mi8 Lift Bn
Aircraft
A10's
F16's
Tornados
Alpha Jets
F4's
Su25's
Su17's
Su19's
These units are all 1 to 1 scale.

@Mako: No, I served on missile boats, you don't want them shooting.

Oh, wait, you meant missile-armed FACs. Maybe with FACs on both sides. FAC swarms versus real warships doesn't seem much fun.

Yes, those little ones, that stay on the surface, at least until the shooting starts.

Actually, there are some really good scenarios with "modern" FACs vs. larger warships, especially if you go back to the 1950s with torpedoes vs. early Cold War vessels (basically like WWII ships), and/or early missile boats vs. various craft. Lots of variety to choose from.

You can even use German S-100 class boats into the 1950s and 1960s with the Danes, etc..

CavScout8thCav and Rob Robertson,
Nice collections. I have the following or approximately:
US: 4 Armored Divisions, M1A2, M1A1, TUSK,(over 1000 Abrmas): M2, M3, M2A2, M2A3, including arty and MLRS, trucks etc.
M60A3 Brd, Several hundred M113
UK: CHallengers 1, 1 Imp, 2, and 2 uparmored, (300+ Challengers) Warrior/MCV80 (over 300), over 300 CRV(T).
French: Over 300 LeClerc, 200_ AMX30B2, 140+ VBCI, 240+AMX10P, 150 AMX10RC, AML of all types 240+
German: 300+ Leopard 2A4, 200+ Leopard 2A6, 200+ Leopard 2A6 M CAN, 300+ of leopard 2 of all types, 420+ Marders, 110 PUMAs,
SADF: 450-500 Ratels, 40 Oliphants, 120 Elands,60 Rooikats,
China: 120+ recent Ty 98 & 99 MBT, 120 older MBT,
Russia: 140 T-90, 300 T-80, 200 T-72, 140 T-62, 140 T-64, 200 T-55, 40 T-54. Have several hundred each of BMP3, BMP2, BMP1, Have BTR 60,70,80, 50, and a few BTR-40.
Have picked up CV9040, CV9030,
Canada: Grizzly, Cougars, M113C&R, M113/25, LAV 25, etc.
Have Brazil, Argentina, Chile forces, also Spain, Italy, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Japan.
Recently worked on Australia, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Sweden, Norway, etc.

chrisswim:
Mother! That is a lot of kit. I am very impressed. Your commitment to collecting Microarmor is far above my pay grade! I grovel at your feet. I am not worthy!
Cheers and good gaming!
Rod Robertson.

Crap, Timelockouted of doom is getting worse!

Leaving aside my long-forgotten horde of 1/300th, my 15mm collection looks like this. It's organised along 'Battlefront: WWII' lines (1:2 or 1:3 for vehicles/heavy weapons and 1 infantry stand per squad):

Soviet:

Tank Battalion (T-64)
Motor Rifle Battalion (BMP-1)
Motor Rifle Battalion (BTR-60 PB) (Incomplete – needs one more company, mortars and AGS-17s):
Regimental Recce Company (BRM, BMP, T-64 & BRDM-2)
Regimental Sapper Company (BTR-50, BRDM-2 RKh, MTU-55, TMM & IMR)
Regimental AA Company (SA-9 & ZSU-23-4)
Regimental AT Company (9P148)
Artillery/FAC assets (1V13, 1V18, BTR-60 R975, PRP-3, 2S1 & BM-21)
Divisional SAMs (SA-8)
Aircraft (1:100th MiG-17, MiG-21, Su-17, Mi-4, Mi-8 & Mi-24D)

West Germans:

Panzer-Grenadier Battalion (2x Marder coys, 1x M113 coy & 1x 120mm Mortar coy)
Panzer Company (M48A2GA2)
Kanonenjagdpanzer Platoon (KJPz 4-5)
Recce (Luchs, Fuchs & Radarpanzer-Kurz 91-2)
Pioneers (Fuchs & Pionierpanzer M48A2)
Odds & Sods (Gepard, Beobpz-Kz 22-2 & Jaguar 1)
Aircraft (1:100th Alouette II, Bo-105 HOT, Bo-105 Scout, Tornado, Alpha-Jet, F-104G & RF-4G)

British:

Armoured Regiment Battlegroup (3x Armoured Sqns (Chieftain), 1x Mech Infantry Coy (FV-432), Guided Weapons Tp (Ferret & FV-438), Close Recce Tp (CVR(T) Scorpion), Eng Fd Tp (FV-432 & CVR(T) Spartan), Armd Eng Tp (Ferret, Centurion AVRE 165, CET & Chieftain AVLB), RA FOO (FV-432), RA Air Defence (Blowpipe in CVR(T) Spartan) & RAF FAC (Ferret)).
Aircraft (1/100th Wessex, Tornado & Jaguar)

Canadian:

Mechanised Battlegroup (minus the infantry at present) (1x Leopard Sqn, 2x M113 Coys, Recce Pl (Lynx), 2x TOW Pls (M150)).
Aircraft (1/100th CF-18, Kiowa & CF-5)

Angolan (FAPLA):

Motor Rifle Battalion (BTR-152)
Motor Rifle Battalion (Trucks)
Tank Battalion (T-54/55)
Recce Coy (BRDM-2 & PT-76)
AT Coy (9P122)
Artillery (D-30 & Zis-3)
AA Coy (SA-7, ZU-23-2, ZPU-4 & ZPU-1)
Aircraft (1/100th Mi-25, MiG-17 & MiG-23ML)

Angolan (UNITA):

UNITA Infantry Battalion
UNITA Special Forces Battalion

South African:

SADF Mechanised Bn (Ratel Command, Ratel 20 & Ratel 60)
SADF Mech AT Coy (Ratel 90)
SADF Mech AA Coy (Ystervark)
SWATF Infantry Bn (Buffel & Casspir)
SADF 32 Bn AT Coy (Ratel 90 & Ratel ZT-3)
SADF Armoured Car Coy (Eland)
SADF Armoured Car Coy (Ratel 90)
SADF Armoured Squadron (Olifant)
Aircraft (1/100th Seeker UAV, Mirage III, Mirage F1, Buccaneer, Canberra, Impala II, Alouette III & Puma)

Jemima Fawr:
Wow. I learned long ago that you are a committed collector and gamer when I found out from you that you have battalions of WWII Sherman tanks in 15mm. The above list convinces me more that you are devoted to the collection of and use of 15mm forces. I applaud your devotion to the hobby but wonder how you and others can afford to amass such large amounts of kit without becoming insolvent? I don't drink or smoke and I do the best I can to make this my one vice and guilty pleasure, but I am definitely on a limited wargaming budget. Thank you and others above for being an inspiration and for the knowledge that I am not alone in this obsession to accumulate such toys of the trade. Clearly I have a ways to go before I reach the heady heights of Mount Olympus and the pinnacle of this seductive hobby. Something to work towards!
Well it's time to get back to painting before my holiday break ends.
Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

That's very kind of you… Just don't tell OC Domestic how much they cost… ;)

Now if I could actually get some games in… (pretty thin on the ground this year) :(

Put away all my 6mm stuff, it's too big.

3mm

Soviet

T55 Regiment+
T62 Regiment+
T72A Regiment+
T64A Regiment+
T80A Regiment+

BTR-60P Regiment -5
BTR-60PB Regiment -5
BMP-1 Regiment
BMP-2 Regiment -5

I have BRDM-2, BRDM-1 w/Swatter, BRDM-2 w/Sagger and Spandrel, ZSU57-2, ZSU23-4, SAU122, SAU152, BM-21, BTR50, BRDM SA-9, SA-13, MT-55… Don't have any towed stuff, plan to rectify this shortly. I also only have two Soviet dismounted Battalions (must get more).

U.S.

45 M1
30 M1A1
30 M2
30 M113
15 M901
12 M125/106
15 M60A3
15 M150
15 M163
15 M577
15 Chaparrel

Also have a medium amount of British and West Geman (haven't started working on these yet).

Want to cover the period between 1974 to 1989 (last 15 years of the cold war).

Rod Robertson, You have a nice group, you really do!
Where do you live? I am in Florida, Jacksonville area.
What manufacturer is your stuff? Mine is mostly GHQ, some CinC and some other stuff: Scotia, In-Service, Ros, Sky-trex, etc.
CavScout8thCav, what about you?
Anyone else in 6mm, 1/285 scale modern micro armor….

When I collect, I use 1:1 ratio for vehicles. So if I have an armored division, I am counting about 330 Abrams and 130 Bradleys. I may be light on arty and certainly trucks. Need 10-15 times as many trucks as anything for the logistics. But we are war gamers, or at least try to be in most cases.

Jemina, Nice collection for your larger scale. I will not ask how you get it all on a table for 1 nationality as I cannot, even in the same camo pattern for my modern micro armor.

TGunner, Let me know if you want that Russian combat command, I may have one. I have about 10 available, they are of different types.

Wow, that's a lot of armor!!!

What size tables do you use, and which rules, chrisswim?

I can't see fielding more than a battalion of armor on the table per side, plus perhaps some attachments.

Doing games at the regimental and divisional level at 1:1 scale would certainly be impressive, and I suspect more than a little time-consuming.

Most of my stuff is c 1980, all 1/300, 6 armies:

- French (NATO)
- Czech
- US Marines
- French (Foreign Legion, Sipahis d'Afrique)
- African "Banana Republic"
- Imagi-Nation "New Byzantium"

I went for France & Czech. forces as they are both rarer and a bit different vs most "Euro Cold War" collections (and all my gaming buddies had those others already). Ditto US Marines, most people in my circle do Army – USMC are higher morale but older kit. The FFL is small but very high morale/capability with top class but light equipment. African force is based on ex-British colony with Soviet & Chinese supplied gear – so lots of 40's and 50's kit, and poorer training, but quantity has a quality of its own :). It can also double as a generic Arab force c '56-'73. I plan to add a Cuban style expeditionary force next, to give them a bit of backbone.

Imagi-Nation forces are an opportunity to put stuff together that otherwise won't be, and even make up a few things – it's based on those of the "neutrals" on the WARPAC/NATO border eg Yugoslavia, Finland, Austria – see:

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Most recent project was upgrading French to a 2000's force with some Leclercs

As to rules, been gaming since the 1980's so shifted from WRG to Cold War Commander to Fistful of TOWs

Different rules have different notional scales so my army size depends on ruleset (eg a tank model is a tank in WRG, but is a tank platoon in Fistful of TOWS) but each force (except FFL & Marines) has about 30 tanks, similar no of APCs, plus all the various ancillary bits and bobs.

Table size – minimum 6 x 4 ft, 9 x 6 better.

Also have a few fighter aircraft of same era for dogfights but never really found a set of rules that did it for me, so its mainly the helos and strike aircraft that see air-action these days.

chrisswim:
I am up in Canada. Montreal, in the province of Quebec to be more specific.
My kit is mostly GHQ, CnC and some H&R stuff that nobody else made at the time I was buying (engineering kit mostly).
My formations are all in a 1:1 ratio so there are a lot of little tanks lying about here. Compound that with WWII microarmour and 15mm Ancients and WWII and I am running out of room. Add to that 15mm Cord War and Ultramodern forces and you can see that I'm in too deep by far!
No military affiliation, I am a civilian through and through.
Cheers and good gaming if you can find the room!
Rod Robertson.

Mako,
At conventions such as Historicon 1.5 years ago in Fredricksburg, VA, I ran Russia invasion of Ukraine on a table about 6-7 feet wide, 30 feet long. Ran a follow up scenario the next day with NATO helping Ukraine (US Army and Polish forces) attacking. I did set up a logistics base for the US forces, used a few drones,
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We played at my house last week on a table 6 x 8 feet. Much smaller encounters. Putinville(Russia I-magine Nation) against the US. First & last game were Stone (10 yr old son) against his father. The last game was the two of them again and it was 6 vehicles vs 8 with some infantry. The middle game was Stone and me as the US vs. the Russians. Stone will be a great player.

Rod, I trade with a few guys in Canada: 7.62 (Mick) and Cama as they are known on the GHQ site. I too, do 1 to 1. I need to lighten my game stuff. 15mm Zulus, Egyptians, and Brits. My WW2 vehicles and men in 15mm, my WW2 micro armor. Perhaps get rid of my WW2 1/2400 naval: US, Uk, French, German, Italian, Japanese.

Anyone want to come over and paint 600+ wheels on ASLAV, LAV vehicles in 1/285 scale, over 70 vehicles? I really want someone to help out!!

Thanks for the info, Chris.

Nyet, comrade, on the wheel painting!

Of course, if you live near the beach, and can cover airfare and living expenses, I just might be persuaded, since it is rather cold here right now.

Oh god I hate painting tyres… :(

Mako, I have a house near the beach, 100+ yards from the ocean. I would be a little short on the airfare & expense. I painted the wheels on 30 ASLAV. Still need to do 27USMC LAV and 14 LAV-25 for the Aussies.

Posted pics on FB: chris's micro armor, 6mm wargaming, table top gaming to name a few. They look pretty nice now.

For me its a big mix 1960s-90s African bush wars in 28mm, the rest are 20mm 87-91 Europe (same as my service period), Iraq first and second war, Afghanistan and a imagination set in the former soviet union. I have a bunch of aircraft also.

28mm Bush wars

Rhodesian, Mercs, South Africans, Cubans, Russians various communist rebels etc most of it unpainted though!

20mm Cold War

West Germans,
1 motorised btn 30 figs, 8 veh Marders, jeeps
1 tank btn 8 veh Leo 1 and 2
various aircraft

Yanks
1 Infantry btn
1 motorised M113
1 heliborne/airborne
2 tank btns 1 M60 and 1 Abrams
various aircraft and helicopters

East germans
2 btns inf btn
1 heliborne (6 choppers)
1 motorised
2 tank btns

Russians.
2 motorised btns
2 btns tanks T72-80s

Iraqi
1 btn
T55 btn
mixed air support

Yanks
1 motorised Bradleys
1 infantry humvees
1 marine Lavs
1 x abrams btn
1 marine arm btn M48s
mixed aircraft and choppers

Afganistan

Aussies Inf 1 btn,
Yanks 1 inf btn
Afganis 50 figs

UN and immagination
mixed vehicles and troops 30 odd figs
mixed vehicles

cheers
matt

"Mako, I have a house near the beach, 100+ yards from the ocean. I would be a little short on the airfare & expense".

That close huh?

Well, I could settle for a bus ticket, a jar of Jif, creamy peanut butter, and a loaf of white bread, plus a case of real sugar, Pepsi.

The above would be my backup, just in case the fishing doesn't pan out. Have speargun, will travel.

Combat Recce Patrol

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Elements of the Doberwitz Independant Tank Bn

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6mm Sovs on the start line:

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HQ 33 (UK) Armd Bde:

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In Action:

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Welcome Party!

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Tally Ho!

Nickinsomerset.
Nice stuff, good looking vehicles.
On the 6mm need a few A-10 to come in… after SEAD.
Nice looking terrain too.