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Mako1117 Sep 2015 11:56 p.m. PST

Looks like Model Master may be producing an enamel paint for the Bundeswehr, that I may be able to use for my microarmor, and larger vehicles:

Model Master #2175 = Gelboliv RAL 6014 NATO (Semi-gloss)

So, have any of you used this for your West German, early to mid-Cold War vehicles?

If so, what do you think of the color?

Any chance it is available in a spray can? I looked, but don't see a listing for it.

Finally, are there any manufacturers that produce it in an acrylic paint, that is available here in the USA?

Bottles are fine, but I'd really love a nice spray can, so I can paint units up quickly, without having to resort to using an airbrush (which I'd need to buy).

I know Revell makes this paint too (not sure if it is enamel, or acrylic), but it's not available on this side of the Atlantic, and I really hate to have to order small little tins of paint from Germany, or the UK.

HistoryPhD18 Sep 2015 3:28 a.m. PST

I use it exclusively for my Bundeswehr. It's excellent, if a bit prone to thickening. I have to thin it down regularly. It comes in bottle only. The color match is spot on. I get it from a place in Los Angeles.

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CAG 1918 Sep 2015 4:36 a.m. PST

I would have thought RAL 6014 is too dark to have been gelboliv, but I just tried out Vallejo 893 which is meant to be a match and it looks pretty good

Garand18 Sep 2015 6:53 a.m. PST

Personally I use a custom-mix of Tamiya paints for Gelboliv.

Damon.

HistoryPhD18 Sep 2015 7:03 a.m. PST

RAL6014 was the exact paint that the Bundeswehr used. The NVA used RAL6003 olivgrün

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Mako1121 Sep 2015 11:25 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info, replies, and links.

I'm hoping not to have to mix paints, if I can avoid it, but have done so in the past, for smaller projects, like painting small-scale, modern fighter jets.

Jemima Fawr22 Sep 2015 3:07 a.m. PST

After much faffing and agonising over it a couple of years ago (see the earlier thread of the same title), I simply used Humbrol US Olive Drab (155), which I'm happy with:

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Mako1116 Oct 2015 2:10 a.m. PST

Those do look great!

Thanks for sharing your pics, and thanks for the links.

I picked up the MM Gelboliv from the local shop. They had to special order it, but it looks pretty good to me in the bottle.

I also bought a bottle of the MM Olive Drab – ANA 613, which looks to be very close to your color from Humbrol.

The only on-line review I found for it was for WWII aircraft, so if it doesn't work for tanks, perhaps I can use it for them, instead.

They had two colors of the O.D. in enamel, from MM, and I didn't get the 34087, even though I've read over and over that it is supposedly the right color, since it looked way too light, and yellowish to me.

I am considering them for the early US Cold War vehicles, but am not sure that's the color I want to go with, in either case, for the O.D., since neither really look like the more milk chocolate brown/green I've seen in photos, of the M48s, M113s, and M60s.

I bought a spray can of the 34087 as well, since the sticker on the cap looks like a decent color I'd like, but suspect the paint may not match that, and may be like the bottle I didn't get.

I'll have to test it out on some styrene stock, before committing to it.

The O.D. paint search is maddening. It really shouldn't be this hard.

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