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| M1911Colt | 16 Sep 2015 4:54 p.m. PST |
I've got a dumb question. I was looking at the home page of TMP, and their is an ad for 2d cold war counters. In the German Army list their is a vehicle, that at least in name Im not familiar with. Panzermöser. My Deutsche is a little rusty. Are they just M113, mortar carriers? |
| Mako11 | 16 Sep 2015 5:00 p.m. PST |
Yes. They had a 120mm mortar variant, which was mainly used. Very early on, I believe they also had 81mm mortars too. The US equivalents are M106 and M125, with 4.2" and 81mm mortars, respectively. |
| M1911Colt | 16 Sep 2015 5:13 p.m. PST |
Cool, thanks. After reading your response, I did a little research. It looks like they replaced the Panzermöser in 2010. Did they replace it with the Wiesel 2 mortar carrier? |
| Mako11 | 16 Sep 2015 8:42 p.m. PST |
Possibly, if there is one (not heard of it) since the Wiesels are fairly ultra-modern kit. Of course, perhaps that's only for their light infantry, or airborne units (assuming they still have those). Before both, they mounted 81mm and 120mm mortars in their HS-30s as well, up through the late 1960s, and probably into the early 1970s. I wouldn't be surprised to see them being carried by trucks, and/or those Fuchs carriers as well, but can't really say for sure. Sorry, not up to speed on ultra-modern Germans. |
| Jemima Fawr | 16 Sep 2015 9:01 p.m. PST |
IIRC, they only bought 36x Wiesel 2 Leichte-Panzermoerser 120s to equip their light, airmobile forces as airmobile artillery. The 120mm mortar component of Panzergrenadier battalions and brigades was simply deleted and there's now no indirect fire capability between 40mm AGLs and 155mm field artillery! |
| Mako11 | 16 Sep 2015 10:13 p.m. PST |
Well, 155mms, or those nice little MLRS salvos will certainly do the job, I suspect. |
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