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crogge175714 Sep 2015 1:07 p.m. PST

I have added some images of my recently painted Brunswick and Hesse-Cassel infantry along with a short article.
Have a look if you like.

Cheers,
Christian
crogges7ywarmies.blogspot.com

Costanzo114 Sep 2015 2:04 p.m. PST

Though I paint 28mm 3D I must say that the Nuremberg are superior in variety of poses and movement.

Jcfrog15 Sep 2015 7:17 a.m. PST

Very inspiring…
Your Christian majesty …

Mollinary15 Sep 2015 12:07 p.m. PST

Christian,

Where did you find the details on Brunswick flags for the SYW? I have never seen anything like them!

Mollinary

crogge175716 Sep 2015 4:13 a.m. PST

Mollinary,

As said, my chosen flag design is documented for the period 1735 to around 1754 during the reign of Karl I. (died 1780). I'm afraid its all German language. Source is:
Ortenburg, Georg, Braunschweigisches Militär, Elm Verlag, Cremlingen, 1987 (German) as well as an article on Brunswick flags by the same author in the German periodical Zeitschrift für Heereskunde.

Cheers,
Christian
crogges7ywarmies.blogspot.com

Mollinary16 Sep 2015 6:39 a.m. PST

Hi Christian,

Thanks for that, I'll try and track those down, as I can just about get by reading German. My only previous source was the Pengel and Hurt booklet, which did not illustrate the colours, but took descriptions from Schirmer. This gives the Leib Regiment a white Leibfahne with large ducal coat of arms, and four white kompaniefahnen with the monogram. The other three sound similar to yours, but with a slight difference. They are described as White (von Imhoff), Yellow (von Zastrow) and Red (von Behr). Each have the monogram on the left side, and a springing white horse "on a red field" on the right side. I painted my 15mm Essex on these lines many years ago, with an amazingly complex ducal coat of arms. Sadly, they were stolen in Vienna in 2005!

Mollinary

crogge175716 Sep 2015 3:00 p.m. PST

Mollinary,

Drop me an email to christian dot ka dot rogge at web dot de
I have good parts of the material you seek in digital PDF format. Happy to share.

Cheers,
Christian
crogges7ywarmies.blogspot.com

Mollinary17 Sep 2015 10:43 a.m. PST

E mail sent! Many thanks for your generosity.

Mollinary

Mollinary18 Sep 2015 4:27 a.m. PST

Many thanks for that Christian, fascinating and authoritative at the same time – a good combination. I would also do what you have done, and use these for SYW. The "Prussian" ones just look too "late 18th century" and too associated with the AWI for me. I wonder why Schirmer got it wrong? I can only assume he never saw the original illustration, and assumed that the white horse would be on a red ground, because it usually was. The dangers of assumption again, I assume! 😂

Mollinary

crogge175719 Sep 2015 2:04 p.m. PST

My pleasure Mollinary.
I also have the respective Pengel and Hurt Supplement covering Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel, where they are quoting Schirmers work. Indeed, it seems not much of the material Ortenburg presents was available to Schirmer with his much earlier study's dating back to the 1920's and 30's. ???. No idea why. I can only speculate. From the former director of the Berlin "Geheimes Staatsarchiv", Prof. Dr. Koltehuis, now keeping much of the old Prussian Archives, I learned the Prussian military archives were found in great disorder from early on. In the event of the several changes of Prussian territories after 1803, again after 1815 and again after 1866 and 1871 much material was transferred from one place to the other. Again after 1918 a central German war archive was intended to be created in Berlin or Potsdam. Possibly the Brunswick war material was moved to Berlin or Potsdam after 1918, and as a result, not available to academic research for many years. Even worse, for a long time this also meant that no one really knew what was there until it became catalogued in the new finders. Just consider, the manuscripts of the never completed Berlin general staff history of the SYW were only found some 10 years ago. Koltehuis decided not to publish them for the detailed operations are all covered elsewhere meanwhile, and the single most interesting chapter to present military history – their final summery and conclusions chapter, has in fact been published with Curd Jany's 4 vol history of the Prussian army. He was the author of this final chapter as Koltehuis found out by comparing the text material.

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