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ToneTW Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2015 2:03 p.m. PST

Looking at getting into moderns and was wondering how Heroics & Ros compare with Scotia? Any preferences either way?

Many thanks

Gennorm12 Sep 2015 2:44 p.m. PST

The answer to this depends on the specific mode; there are good and bad in both ranges. This site has pictures and reviews:
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The only generalisation I would make is that H&R infantry are much better than Scotia.

dsfrank12 Sep 2015 3:23 p.m. PST

I'm not a fan of either range & only use them if there is a model they have that neither CnC nor GHQ make.

I use GHQ & CnC as much as possible – CnC is typically a better value especially considering the discounts Randy gives for bulk mail orders

Kropotkin303 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2015 4:03 p.m. PST

As I understand GHQ and CinC are 1/285 and Heroics and Ros are 1/300th.They do not match up.

Don't know about Scotia.

Heroics are my choice. Clean and accurate models.

+1 on Heroics infantry. They scale well with the H&R tanks.

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2015 4:55 p.m. PST

+2 for Heroics and Ros. Good value for the money. My second choice would be GHQ. A bit more, but very nice, too.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2015 5:51 p.m. PST

CinC are slightly smaller than GHQ, so I'd say they're really 1/300th, but the official scale has been changed to 1/285th.

GHQ and CinC are the best, but H&R and Scotia make some things the others don't. As mentioned, quality for the latter two companies can vary considerably by the model chosen.

H&R has the most scale appropriate infantry.

IainAF Inactive Member12 Sep 2015 11:03 p.m. PST

The newer models from H&R are really nice and I know that they have plans to add more models to their Moderns range, hopefully maybe some of the earlier stuff might get a re-make one day? Their infantry is really good for the scale too – plus they really are the most economical to buy and a pleasure to deal with.

I've found Scotia to be much more hit and miss quality-wise but they do make the pieces that others don't so are invaluable for that and some of their models are really good but avoid their infantry!

I've a few CinC pieces and they are lovely but price wise nearly double H&R, don't have any GHQ so can't say about them!

nickinsomerset12 Sep 2015 11:59 p.m. PST

CinC and GHQ are lovely, but a little bigger than H&R (and Skytrex). I prefer H&R to Scotia. Busy building up for a big Cold War game at Salute and H&R are producing some new stuff which will make their Cold War line pretty well complete,

Tally Ho!

Martin Rapier13 Sep 2015 1:57 a.m. PST

I mainly use H&R, supplemented by Scotia. They go together well. GHQ are huge in comparison and much more expensive.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2015 3:18 a.m. PST

True, about GHQ, pricewise, but their quality is unsurpassed.

CinC are very comparable to GHQ, quality-wise, but are a bit cleaner – less exaggeration of small detailing on them, so the styles of the two are a bit different.

Both GHQ and CinC are of superb quality, making even many 1/72nd scale models look poor, by comparison.

ToneTW Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2015 4:00 a.m. PST

Thank you everyone for the replies. From pics online I am very tempted to go GHQ or CinC but since I can buy pieces individually from H&R and Scotia I will probably give them a go and if they are to my taste get more and if not try GHQ or CinC.

Thanks again everyone for the help.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2015 11:13 a.m. PST

Buy a few of each, and/or at least try to see what others have purchased, and then make your decision.

From some on-line images, you can see the quality first-hand – check out GHQ's latest IS-III remodel, which is simply stunning.

twawaddell Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2015 12:25 p.m. PST

I'm with D.S. Frank. GHQ makes the best detailed miniatures I've seen in the scale. CinC comes in second. However, while some of their models are smaller some are actually larger. Their BMP-3 is an example. Scotia's infantry is cheap but has some casting issues. However, they make figures no one else has bothered with such as a Russian firing an SA-7 or SA-24. H&R's infantry has a wider variety of poses than anyone else's but is visibly smaller. However, at this scale it will still work as long as you don't mix figures in the same units.

The next issue is the casting quality. In this area GHQ pretty much owns the field. CinC has some good castings and some not so good. Scotia is the same as CinC, some good some not so good. H&R also falls into this category.

Finally, the variety of models in their catalogs. All of them have good variety. CinC really shines at the number of different varieties of vehicles they offer. You can find engineering vehicles that GHQ doesn't make here. H&R has better variety of aircraft but the hands down winner in variety is Scotia. They make vehicles I've not seen anywhere else, particularly with regard to engineering vehicles.

I've bought figures from all of them and have put them to good use. The only thing I'd warn you about is that the miniatures are addictive. You can't buy just a few!

Lou from BSM13 Sep 2015 12:35 p.m. PST

He didn't ask about CnC or GHQ, so why is everyone touting their superiority? Answer the question that was asked.

Scotia and H&R are 1/300 in scale, so they are visibly smaller than the 1/285 manufacturers. In direct comparison, I would lean towards the newer Scotia models. Their quality was hit and miss many years ago, but they have improved significantly over the years. One of their hallmarks was the fact that they produced the vehicles that no one else did (or would).

H&R and Scotia match up well together, and you could go very far using one for the bulk of your forces and supplementing the odd vehicles with the other. Also, with the ability to purchase vehicles individually, you won't have to worry about buying that extra pack in order to meet your OOB needs.

ToneTW Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2015 2:33 a.m. PST

Thanks again everyone for your reviews and sound advice, all very helpful. I have seen nice pics from all the ranges online but the pictures make the minis look larger. Definitely going to get samples from H&R and Scotia so I can see them in the flesh.

CAG 19 Inactive Member14 Sep 2015 5:07 a.m. PST

@ToneTW

Have a look on the microarmor mayhem site. He has comparison shots of most micro armour from a range of manufacturers which would be useful before you part with your hard earned cash

link to Microarmor Mayhem reviews by Country


Regards

nickinsomerset14 Sep 2015 8:34 a.m. PST

Oh, H&R are doing quite a few more Cold War vehicles over the next 6 months, including a midge Drone system and Chieftain stillbrew!

Tally Ho!

coopman14 Sep 2015 3:19 p.m. PST

Yea, maybe so, but I want it NOW.

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