tkdguy | 18 Aug 2015 10:37 p.m. PST |
It occurrred to me today that there aren't any miniatures for the 4077th M*A*S*H Unit. I know they're not wargame material, but are any miniatures we can use for Hawkeye, Radar, and the others? |
D A THB | 18 Aug 2015 10:54 p.m. PST |
I'd love to sneak some into my Vietnam collection even though it would be the wrong War. |
Mako11 | 19 Aug 2015 2:03 a.m. PST |
Well, the could have been drafted again, or volunteered, so seems like a possibility to me. |
Skarper | 19 Aug 2015 2:15 a.m. PST |
MASH was really about the Vietnam war – mostly. I liked the characters – except Hawkeye – they were funny and at times quite deep. Too many TV shows just go on and on long after they have anything left to say. |
MajorB | 19 Aug 2015 2:49 a.m. PST |
MASH was really about the Vietnam war – mostly. The TV series was based on the series of books by Richard Hooker (real name Richard Hornberger). The first book in the series "MASH: A Novel About Three Army Doctors" was published in 1968 so predates most of the Vietnam war. The book was based on Hooker's own experiences as a surgeon in the 8055th MASH in Korea. |
Coelacanth1938 | 19 Aug 2015 3:17 a.m. PST |
I have the official MASH Cookbook by the actor who played Private Igor! |
20thmaine | 19 Aug 2015 5:17 a.m. PST |
Revell did various sets for MASH including this one : auction 1/35th – perfect for skirmish games! |
Who asked this joker | 19 Aug 2015 5:45 a.m. PST |
MASH was really about the Vietnam war – mostly. Probably more of a statement about the senselessness of war in general. The Vietnam war just happened to be going on at the time. However, it would be much better to have Korean War era figures as that is the setting MASH is portrayed in. Nice find, 20thmaine! |
jpattern2 | 19 Aug 2015 5:52 a.m. PST |
At one time, I had all of the MASH books, more than a dozen of them. They came out like popcorn in the late '70s. link The first book is by far the best, although M*A*S*H Goes to Maine has its (different) charms. The rest were just time-killers, read once and soon dropped off at the local used-book store. |
Oddball | 19 Aug 2015 6:36 a.m. PST |
Skater, You are right on about a show going on and on. Should have ended years before it did. Not very funny the last 3 or 4 years. |
vaughan | 19 Aug 2015 8:25 a.m. PST |
I loved MASH when it was first aired in the UK. Recently I saw some old episodes and found them embarrassingly unwatchable due to the canned laughter. The original showing in the UK didn't have it, but apparently CBS insisted on it in the USA. I found the raucous guffaws too distracting and unnecessary. |
14Bore | 19 Aug 2015 1:27 p.m. PST |
Was a original fan and know want to see the original movie at a drive in theatre. Can't watch them at all now. |
Winston Smith | 19 Aug 2015 7:18 p.m. PST |
Hooker HATED what the tv series did to his book. He was a raging right wing conservative (like me) and in his sequels clearly repudiated the liberal slant of the tv. He loved the anarchy of the movie though. He WAS ed that he accepted a pittance for the movie and tv rights though. |
Skarper | 19 Aug 2015 10:27 p.m. PST |
WS-"He was a raging right wing conservative (like me)" Knowing you have a problem is the first step to a cure ;-) [just kidding] Interesting perspective on Hooker. I'm quite left wing politically [many here will not be shocked by this!] but I think MASH did more harm than good to the liberal/anti war case. Why? Because it was trite. Characters started to become one-dimensional and the hawk characters [e.g. Major Burns] were caricatures and whipping boys for the 'cool' guys. First few series when it was actually funny and a bit 'racy' were OK – also I was younger and it was a treat to stay up late and watch what my parents were watching. But as it wore on it started to grate and I don't think I saw any of the latter half. Alan Alder ruined it when he got control. OK actor but should stay in his lane. |
tkdguy | 19 Aug 2015 11:49 p.m. PST |
I never read the books, but I enjoyed both the movie and the series. I agree the series lasted too long. I like the Swamp diorama. And I'm jealous of the signed cookbook. Are the recipes there any good? I need to ask because the food the 4077th ate was terrible. |
jpattern2 | 20 Aug 2015 5:47 a.m. PST |
He was a raging right wing conservative (like me) and in his sequels clearly repudiated the liberal slant of the tv. Hooker (H. Richard Hornberger) was a political conservative, but from what I've read, I wouldn't describe him as "raging." (FWIW, I wouldn't describe *you* as "raging" either, John, based on your posts. Sorry, I know that must sting. ) He loved the movie and Donald Sutherland's portrayal of Hawkeye, but he didn't like the "softer" liberal slant of the TV series, especially the laughtrack in the non-surgical scenes (join the crowd) and Alan Alda's portrayal of Hawkeye. More than that, though, he was mostly angry that he signed away the rights to MASH for a relative pittance. I read all of the MASH books, and I can tell you that Hooker definitely did not "repudiate the liberal slant" of the TV show in the sequels. The only sequels he actually wrote were MASH Goes to Maine and MASH Mania (the only sequels that are still on my shelves). Both of them are pretty much "MASH transposed to the States": Humorous and absurd stories loosely strung together to form a linear narrative, of sorts. There's almost nothing political in the books. As for the other dozen or so sequels, they were ghostwritten by William E. Butterworth, with minimal input from Hooker (possibly none). They're much goofier than Hooker's books, with no bite whatsoever, political or otherwise, and obviously written simply to capitalize on the popularity of the TV show. (Hey, they sucked me in.) |
tkdguy | 21 Aug 2015 11:07 p.m. PST |
IBM commercials were the closest thing to a MASH reunion YouTube link YouTube link I remember seeing one with the entire cast, both old and new, making an appearance (Alan Alda did the talking), but I can't find it on YouTube. |