Tango01 | 16 Aug 2015 4:02 p.m. PST |
Well… Photo blocked by adult filter: "picture *adult*" See here link Amicalement Armand |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 16 Aug 2015 4:32 p.m. PST |
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charared | 16 Aug 2015 4:42 p.m. PST |
"I'll "Conc-u-Bine" Her!!!" (sorry.) |
Shagnasty | 16 Aug 2015 8:33 p.m. PST |
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OSchmidt | 17 Aug 2015 5:26 a.m. PST |
Another guy-face. Still better than many others. The beer gut is a turn off. |
Stepman3 | 18 Aug 2015 11:01 a.m. PST |
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poiter50 | 18 Aug 2015 7:06 p.m. PST |
Seriously Otto?! Do you live in a vacuum? |
Dark Fable | 19 Aug 2015 1:51 a.m. PST |
Otto has 'issues' when it comes to female miniatures . . . rolls eyes |
OSchmidt | 19 Aug 2015 3:27 a.m. PST |
Only when the sculpts are ugly and inept. Sorry, it's the handicap of the classics in art. |
Dark Fable | 19 Aug 2015 5:05 a.m. PST |
hmmm things such as beauty and ugliness are highly subjective and I would hardly call this sculptor inept. By 'guy-face' I assume you mean she has longer face than is usually associated with pretty round-faced girls. Beer gut? I'm just not seeing it. The classics in art a handicap? What on earth does that mean? |
OSchmidt | 19 Aug 2015 6:07 a.m. PST |
No they are not. Beauty and ugliness are not highly subjective, but observable and codifiable, both for beauty and for ugliness. They are reflections of ultimate and divine ideals that transcend the normal sensibilities. Thus Ingre's "Odalisque" is beautiful even though the proportions of the body have been deformed (her forleg is too long and she seems to have several extra vertebrae. Still it is the curve and line of the spine and the curve of the thigh that adheres to rule of proportion. On the other hand the Madonna of the Long Neck is really ugly because of that very thing. Classical art adheres to these norms and canons and once you break them ugliness takes over. It is all dependent on the pleasing nature of the subject. One either adheres to the forms or one doesn't Even the ugly has a coda for its presentation. The head in the figure above is too long, the jaw too blocky, and the figure compared to the proportion of the head, stumpy and lumpy. It's OK, but not beautiful. The form of the "Flower Witch" on the other hand though Junoesque and zaftig never transgressed the rules of beauty, and the curves are all complementing and reciprocating. Event the somewhat contorted pose works. |
lmntel | 19 Aug 2015 7:13 a.m. PST |
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Dark Fable | 19 Aug 2015 7:47 a.m. PST |
I find the model appealing – regardless of all the nonsense you've just spouted about Jean Auguste Dominique Ingre's Grand Odalisque. If Kev White was sculpting for the Royal Academy he might have some issues with those who like to codify imagined reflections of 'divine ideals that transcend the normal sensibilities' (LOL give me a break!) – Kev is sculpting for the miniatures market and he is one of the best out there. |
Cotton Eyed Joe | 19 Aug 2015 8:31 a.m. PST |
A horse walks into the bar and orders a beer. The bartender looks up and says"Hey bub, whats with the long face" (It was funny when my Grandfather said it) The figure has no beer gut and the face is certainly not manlike. She seems a little pensive or sad but her face is clearly within proportion. |
Stepman3 | 21 Aug 2015 1:54 a.m. PST |
Kev is fantastic sculptor and produces great figures. Must be nice to be able to critique others labors…lets see some of your endeavors… |
Winston Smith | 21 Aug 2015 5:28 a.m. PST |
Not that old saw again. "Unless you can do it, you cannot critique it." Nonsense. I can't sing very well, but I know when somebody sounds like a cat bring strangled. I can't dance, but I know when someone looks like he has fire ants in his pants. Etcetera. Why do we have to assume that any and all paint jobs presented here are superb and beyond reproach? |
chironex | 04 Sep 2015 4:28 p.m. PST |
"Beauty and ugliness are not highly subjective, but observable and codifiable, both for beauty and for ugliness." That's actually a blatant lie, and we have all been taught such since we were children. There is no beer gut. What has happened is that the pelvis is angled forward a bit, making the gut bulge. That happens in reality, though you shouldn't be able to notice it if someone is wearing clothing up to their waist. They usually aren't, which looks like cr@p to me, but, back to your statement about beauty being a mathematically predictable quality, they still say wearing their pants halfway down their @r$es doesn't look like cr@p which just proves that it is obviously a subjective judgement after all. Either that or humans don't really have a right to exist after all. All that said, I have at least one copy and they look just right. The one in the image looks too reddish and the paint is too thick and full of debris, though she could just have the odd mole on her legs… Maybe the UV was too high that day. |