"The Twilight Lords - book about the Irish wars" Topic
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huevans011 | 08 Aug 2015 9:07 a.m. PST |
link Highly recommended. A political, social and at times intellectual history of the Desmond Wars in Ireland in the 1560's and 70's with a briefer treatment of the Tyrone Rebellion. Helpful with Irish society and politics and the politics of the English Ascendancy. Enough detail of the battles to give the reader an idea how to recreate them. |
Oh Bugger | 08 Aug 2015 9:32 a.m. PST |
Yeah TTL is a great read. I could wish he made more use of footnotes but he knows his stuff. |
20thmaine | 08 Aug 2015 6:30 p.m. PST |
Tragically I have a hardback copy from – oh I don't know, maybe 1990 – that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. Maybe I should ! |
Oh Bugger | 09 Aug 2015 2:22 a.m. PST |
Yeah that's the same vintage as mine. It is well worth a read. If I was asked to suggest three books on the period for someone new to it I would say Falls, Hayes McCoy and TTL. It has some great quotes too, the defeated and wounded Earl of Desmond was been carried into captivity by his Butler opponents one of whom says you're where you should be now to which he replies "Yes, on the backs of the Butlers". The phrase "I will drink his blood like milk" tends to stick in the mind too. Great period flavour. The same author wrote a nice book on the Mohawk Valley. |
huevans011 | 09 Aug 2015 6:21 a.m. PST |
It's actually a fascinating period, although the degree of gratuitous, sadistic violence on both sides – often to non combatants – is very disturbing. Lots of inspiration for asymmetrical, colonial type campaign games. The Irish player has to avoid open battle and attempt to wear down the conventional English army (pike, shot, cavalry) before ambushing it with kerns and gallowglasses. The English player has to pursue the elusive Irish bands while protecting strongpoints. |
Oh Bugger | 09 Aug 2015 5:17 p.m. PST |
Yes its all that. If you really get into the period Hiram Morgan is an author to look out for. If you want to undersand the nature of the society Elizabeth's men were trying to supress Cattle Lords and Clansmen by Patterson does the trick. Not easy going if you are new to it but by the end you understand everything you need to. For figures Khurasan are great if you like 15mm. |
huevans011 | 09 Aug 2015 6:52 p.m. PST |
I just got Hiram Morgan from the library, but found it pretty dry and put it aside. I picked up "The Last Armada" by Des Ekin as well and am reading it. I'm a bit disappointed that it's focused on the Spanish and a bit "light". I was hoping for something more on the Irish and O Neill. But it's interesting and easy to read. |
Oh Bugger | 10 Aug 2015 3:40 a.m. PST |
Morgan can be a bit dry though he has an excellent essay in the Kinsale anniversary anthology on Tyrrell one of Tyrone's favourite captains. If you have a good Library anything by David Beers Quinn is very good. Costs a fortune to buy though sadly. MK Walsh's Hugh O'Neil Prince of Ulster is authoritive on Tyrone's exile. The Irish Texts Society publishes a lovely edition in Irish and English of O'Clerigh's Life of Hugh O'Donnell which is a contemporary Irish account full of detail. Mine cost £30.00 GBP new and was money well spent it should be available via the inter library loan scheme too. |
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