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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2015 8:22 a.m. PST

So I'm not that intrested in the set piece battle of the war. (mostly because I don't think I can bother to paint so many figures from that period(the armor and clothing don't do that much for me)

But I do find the period intersting, and like in most wars, smaller raids and fights were much more common then actual battles.

So I wonderd which rules would fit.

I'm thinking forest raids or raid on villages.

I'm thinknig large scale skirmish. like 50-100 figures pr side. Mostly infantry.

Saga deals with smaller skirmishes.

Also were can you find good medieval buildings.

mossdocking02 Aug 2015 8:25 a.m. PST

Lion Rampant from Osprey books is what you need

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2015 8:44 a.m. PST

Yep Lion Rampant

DColtman02 Aug 2015 8:46 a.m. PST

Lion Rampant fits this precisely, I suppose it could accomodate up to 100 figs per side if you use multiple commands per side.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2015 11:24 a.m. PST

Mine (Sword and Dagger) are suitable, and Free! link

Ney Ney02 Aug 2015 12:06 p.m. PST

Gotta be Lion Rampant, well worth the minimal cost.

kallman02 Aug 2015 12:06 p.m. PST

And another vote for Lion Rampant. What you have described for the type of game you want, Lion Rampant was specifically designed and will handle beautifully. The real kicker is you can probably collect almost everything you need to do with two full 24 point Retinues using the new Perry Miniatures Plastic HYW English Army sets. One box comes with 24 archers and 12 Men at Arms figures. That is two 12 man archer units and two six man Foot Men at Arms units for 20 points per box.

As for buildings you have an embarrassment of riches to chose from. Cost will be the main factor you will have to consider. The least expensive route is simply to scratch build everything as the construction is pretty simple in design. The other thing to consider is do you want to be able to use the building interiors. If the interiors are not an issue than Hudson Allen extruded foam buildings are a great way to go and are available in the States from Vatican Enterprised.

link

Miniature building Authority for high quality resin with lift off roofs but without detailed interiors is a good bet and I have many of these.

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Then there is the laser cut and pre-painted exterior interior buildings by 4Ground.

link

kallman02 Aug 2015 12:17 p.m. PST

Oh and here is the author of the rules Lion Rampant blog on the rules and creating army lists. This particular link shows how you can create a 24 point retinue just using one box of the HYW Perry plastics.

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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2015 12:36 p.m. PST

My problem with the perry plastic set is it only has heavy men at arms and archers, I would assume a raid would be done by alot of the lower rank troops, so I will probebly use the metals, as metals got alot more lighly armord troops, more brigand style, lots of padding, some mail and some plate reenforcments.

In a perfect world I would have preferd early HYW figures, but those are hard to find,

But thanks for all the recomendations, I'll take a look at lion rampart.

Zargon02 Aug 2015 2:06 p.m. PST

GF Trust me ;) Lion Rampart and plastic Perrys but if you want to do early HYW go with Black Tree Designs metals, just painted up some spear/halbard/billmen for a customer, they are great and if you join their scheme you can get them real cheap, very simple but nice sculpting.
Cheers happy gaming

Mick in Switzerland02 Aug 2015 11:35 p.m. PST

@ Gunfreak

The Perry Agincourt to Orleans range was already a very comprehensive range in metal before they brought out the plastic sets. You can easily add some lighter infantry –
AO04, AO17 or peasants AO 34.
link

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2015 10:31 a.m. PST

We have a set of 40mm house rules we use and it doesn't matter the size of the units. The scale of the figures wouldn't matter either. Send me an e-mail if you interested in seeing a copy. msc1d@aol.com

KSmyth03 Aug 2015 7:41 p.m. PST

One more vote for Lion Rampant. I've run scenarios with single retinues per side and with as many as seven retinues total. It's a great set of rules, easy to learn for new players and I believe it is a blank slate allowing the addition of new troop types and special scenario rules. Most of the Hundred Years was spent in chevauchees, castle raids, and small actions. These rules are perfect for that.

Big Martin Back05 Aug 2015 4:23 a.m. PST

Lion Rampant again.

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