Yellow Admiral | 01 Aug 2015 4:10 p.m. PST |
Does anyone have a collection of the Old Glory 1/600 scale Ironclads painted, rigged, and photographed? It would be nice to see how they look on the table. I got excited about these when they came out, but the range seems to have stopped growing years ago, and in any case is too focused on the pre-dreadnought period for me. I was hoping it would expand back into the 1870s and 1880s over time. That era deserves big models to show off all the weird and unique design experiments. - Ix |
jdpintex | 01 Aug 2015 7:51 p.m. PST |
I have some, but I haven't started painting them. Pretty nice castings/resin pieces. But simply haven't got around to them |
War Artisan | 01 Aug 2015 10:34 p.m. PST |
I don't have any in my collection (only because I haven't figured out how to make pre-dreadnought games work in 1:600 scale), but I have seen them in person and the photos on the website don't begin to do them justice. Excellent castings. I'm tempted to get a few just for display pieces. |
Rdfraf | 02 Aug 2015 7:47 a.m. PST |
I have seen them at the Old Glory booth at Historicon and they are incredible looking pieces of art. I have never seen anyone game with them but it would look gorgeous! |
Yellow Admiral | 02 Aug 2015 11:58 a.m. PST |
I haven't figured out how to make pre-dreadnought games work in 1:600 scale That's precisely what stopped me in my tracks a few years ago – I don't know how to make pre-dreadnought battles fit on the table in 1/600 scale without monstrously excessive scale distortion. Lately I've been playing Sail & Steam Navies, and I decided I want to try later ironclads in those rules. In the 1870s and 1880s the ships were still slow and the engagement ranges were still short, so S&SN should work, and I think it has enough detail to capture the uniqueness of all the weird experimental designs. I bought a sample set of Houston's models to try it out, but 1/600 scale is better for showing off details. Old Glory only makes a few models for the right time frame, but maybe there will be more later. - Ix |
nnascati | 02 Aug 2015 1:37 p.m. PST |
Wow, those look pretty good even in the photos. I am always drawn to the period, but could never find a set of rules I could get my head around. |
The G Dog | 02 Aug 2015 7:22 p.m. PST |
I bought USS Maine at least five years ago (the last year Fall in was at the Eisenhower?) and sadly, I've made no progress assembling the model. |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 03 Aug 2015 6:00 p.m. PST |
I have about 30 of them and have supplimented them with many scratchbuilds. Any in particular you want to see? There are many pictures here: link |
Big Red | 04 Aug 2015 8:30 a.m. PST |
VSB, do you game with them? If so what methods do you use? |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 05 Aug 2015 1:18 p.m. PST |
I can game with them, as I have a big patio and/or a 3 car driveway. If I ever got an opponent I'd have to settle on some rules – GQII or Steel Dreadnaughts depending on the opponent. |
Miniatureships | 06 Aug 2015 1:52 p.m. PST |
We have been working on some rules, and they should be ready for Fall In – (at least that is what the captain tells me). Basically, the game will be designed for playing with the ships on a table a top. I understand that many people are into the gym floor scale thing, but as a gamer, I am too old to be playing on the floor, you know, once down very hard to get up. There has been in the past, a gamer from the Wags group that has put games on at the HMGS-east conventions, and he has used movement and firing ranges for smaller scales to run the game on a table top, and those playing have enjoyed it greatly. Remember, we are playing a game, and even if you played on a gym floor to get that 1/600 distance and movement, the game is still distorted because your playing on a flat surface, not water with waves. I am hoping, before Fall In to retake photos of all the ships that will show the ship from above as well as a side view. |
Yellow Admiral | 06 Aug 2015 4:44 p.m. PST |
he has used movement and firing ranges for smaller scales to run the game on a table top That would totally ruin all suspension of disbelief for me…. and I'm pretty sure the owner of the miniatures would kick me out of the game when I insisted on stacking them. Are there any plans to expand the range back into the 1870s and 1880s? That period desperately needs to be covered in 1/600 scale. - Ix |
Yellow Admiral | 06 Aug 2015 4:52 p.m. PST |
I have about 30 of them and have supplimented them with many scratchbuilds.Any in particular you want to see? Nice! You should add those photos to virtualscratchbuilder.com too. Do you have HMS Devastation? Inflexible? Duilio or Dandolo? I am irrationally fond of the ironclads of the "oversized muzzle loader" period. I'd also be interested in large models of Italia or Lepanto (the 1880s barbette battleships). - Ix |
Yellow Admiral | 14 Aug 2015 1:48 p.m. PST |
After a bit of a wait I've received my test order of Houston's 1/1000 scale ironclads from Great Endeavors: Duilio, Italia, HMS Victoria, HMS Inflexible, and 4x French torpedo boats. I chose this selection because it represents several extremes of size, armament and design philosophy of the late ironclad period and I wanted to see how they looked and felt "in the flesh". (I also had to have a model of Duilio and/or Dandolo, but that's a different issue. ) I'm glad I did this. The large battleships are right around what I consider the extreme end of the size spectrum for naval gaming pieces: the Italia is a full 5" long, the other battleships just short of that. I like them, but I wouldn't want them any bigger. They have the same presence on the table as most 1/600 scale ACW ironclads, which seems to be the "sweet spot" for naval gaming. In 1/600 scale they would be 8" long monsters, too big for gaming in a period of 15kt speeds and 6000 yard cannonades. - Ix |