"Bad News/Good News on Warhammer Tournament" Topic

Guns of August (Aug 20-23) was supposed to have a WFB tournament. This was a follow on to the very successful 50+ players who played in the Williamsburg Muster tournament.

Then Age of Sigmar happened. The players pulled out, and the organizers cancelled the event.

But . . . The organizers decided to instead run an Kings of War tournament, and the sign up list is already over 20 players.

Is the death of WFB a sign that more fantasy wargaming by other rule sets will rise? I hope so.

If you are interested in finding out about the tournament, or playing, check out the website hamptonroadsgamers.org

Sounds like a fun time, and I have relatives within a short drive so free lodging.

Been wanting to try these rules. I think this is a great solution to the problem.

I drove down once to that convention and it was quite a nice event.

The lack of fan driven, organized play will severely hurt the future of Sigmar. Tournament players populate YouTube with gameplay videos in quantities far exceeding their numbers that help convince newbies to embrace a system at either the casual or tournament level.

Games with point systems and a community that supports them thrive in convention and game store environments where games without them struggle. There are many miniatures games without point systems that make their appearance at conventions/stores but you will never see that game played all day for two days straight by 20 or 30 people at the same time at either venue. Such visibility is great for a game's survival, builds a gaming community and builds excitement that players can find others in their area to play with. Darwinism can be relied upon to root out the hyper-competitive, loud mouth, obnoxious, predatory gamer. Miniatures games without point systems are otherwise typically played in basement dungeons doing little for fan base, the FNGS and the continued survival and growth of such games.

So yes….almost all successful modern miniatures games sold in any numbers have point systems to promote their survival. GW is living in the past in neglecting this fact. Without a point system I think current WFB players will migrate from WFB/AoS to systems that are still alive letting them test their abilities to hack point systems, paint figures they like, talk smack with their friends and blow money earmarked for retirement on plastic and pewter.

The cost of miniatures, a point system that rendered figures irrelevant/un-playable, the lack of mass marketing, the lack of communication, no support for organized play and a failure to support social media killed WFB not the loss of popular interest in fantasy. All the above are things Mantic is trying to do as best they can and I wish all those trying to do so the best of luck.

Was it an official GW-sanctioned event?
If not, why couldn't the players go through with it? Did all the GW players suddenly trash their old armies and rulebooks when AoS came out?

It was some sort of qualifying event for a larger tournament structure, so it might have been involved with GW.

The organizers and players seem mostly happy with migrating to Kings of War.