"First English King to quarter his arms with France?" Topic
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Winston Smith | 26 Jul 2015 10:58 p.m. PST |
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Big Martin Back | 26 Jul 2015 11:09 p.m. PST |
Presumably Edward III, as he was the first to claim the kingship of France. |
MajorB | 26 Jul 2015 11:12 p.m. PST |
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Navy Fower Wun Seven | 27 Jul 2015 3:40 a.m. PST |
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Cerdic | 27 Jul 2015 3:47 a.m. PST |
I always thought it was Edward III. |
Big Martin Back | 27 Jul 2015 6:24 a.m. PST |
Definitely Edward III. Contemporary chronicle illustrations show him with the quartered arms. |
Captain dEwell | 27 Jul 2015 7:28 a.m. PST |
Edward III. Much more important (to me ) is that King Henry IV, imitating Charles VI of France, reduced the fleurs-de-lis to three. Question: Was it reduced in time to fly at the Battle Of Shrewsbury 1403? |
smolders | 27 Jul 2015 7:43 a.m. PST |
I know its Wiki, but will this help: link It would appear that Edward III was in deed the first. |
Malatesta1500 | 27 Jul 2015 11:19 a.m. PST |
It was Edward III, the arms made their premier in Ghent while he was preparing to invade France. |
EHeise | 27 Jul 2015 7:02 p.m. PST |
Look at the Obscure Battles site, one of the battles describes Edward quartering his arms. Crecy maybe? |
EHeise | 27 Jul 2015 7:04 p.m. PST |
yep, Crecy… "It was at this time, too, (1340) that Edward decided to change his logo, from the Plantagenet three lions waving "hi there" to the now-familiar, quartered lions and fleurs-de-lys of France, signifying his claim to both thrones. I'm sure this graphic design ploy impressed nobody. But it was sure to inflame Philip and his loyal retainers when they saw Edward's impudent banner on the battlefield. If you've ever wondered why there were French fleurs-de-lys in English royal symbolism, it was from this bit of graphic nose-thumbing." all credit to Mr Jeff Berry. |
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