Brownbear | 23 Jul 2015 2:22 p.m. PST |
I'm looking at simple W2 rules (platoon/company level), preferable with multifigure bases. Scale 20mm or 28mm scale |
Joes Shop | 23 Jul 2015 2:58 p.m. PST |
I would recommend CrossFire by Arty Conliffe. |
Dynaman8789 | 23 Jul 2015 3:05 p.m. PST |
Fireball Forward, 3 figs per base, each base is a squad. A demo version featuring the battle for Brecourt manor is available as a free demo. |
Stosstruppen | 23 Jul 2015 3:07 p.m. PST |
Battlefront WWII I Aint Been Shot Mum |
Weasel | 23 Jul 2015 3:23 p.m. PST |
Company level with squad bases sounds a LOT like Crossfire :-) It's easy to play, works really well and is one of those games that everyone should play. (Technically most of the Crossfire scenarios are more like battalion level, but I think it absolutely shines as a company game). If you want something a bit off the beaten path, I got you covered: link 20th century, not ww2 specifically, but it lets you play through a company level battle in about an hour or so, with no charts or long lists of dice modifiers. Very solo friendly too. If you want a glance at the rules in action, Jack has about 10 million AAR's on his site: blackhawkhet.blogspot.com |
redbanner4145 | 23 Jul 2015 4:01 p.m. PST |
Another vote for Fireball Forward. Playable Squad Leader w/ minis. |
RetroBoom | 23 Jul 2015 4:10 p.m. PST |
All good games listed. I would definitely try Crossfire if you haven't. Can't recommend it enough, at least to be familiar with. Weasel's 5Core Company Command is also excellent, and is incredibly impressive in how quickly it moves. Fireball Forward is also interesting, though the dice mechanics are at once brilliant and cumbersome. I don't play it as often as others because of that. multi based figs in 28mm at company level seems a little unwieldy, to me. |
Fried Flintstone | 23 Jul 2015 4:33 p.m. PST |
Base the figures singly at this scale and use Chain of Command rules |
pzivh43 | 23 Jul 2015 4:41 p.m. PST |
Battlegroup WW2 is a great set of rules. Simple but subtle! |
Warlord | 23 Jul 2015 6:50 p.m. PST |
Frontline Command WWII link |
combatpainter | 23 Jul 2015 8:41 p.m. PST |
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PiersBrand | 24 Jul 2015 5:48 a.m. PST |
Battlegroup if you want simple, exciting, fun games with period feel and the ability to play historical style pick up games or historical based scenario play. See the AARs here… Www.guildwargamers.com And im utterly biased as I write the books with Warwick Kinrade. |
christot | 24 Jul 2015 6:48 a.m. PST |
1: Crossfire 2: Crossfire 3: Crossfire 4: Fireball Forward 5:I Ain't been shot mum (if you like card games) 6:Battlefront WWII (bit more advanced, But very good- NOT to be confused with Battlegroup) 7: Command decision Test of Battle (Much more complex) |
martin goddard | 24 Jul 2015 7:39 a.m. PST |
You might consider PBI from peter Pig. there are probably more WW2 sets about than for any other era. PBI is limited to a company of infantry a side (it is basically an infantry game)with the possibility of a bit of armour. Not the ideal set if you like plenty of tanks or air support at platoon level. Reasons 1.Uses squares for all measurement, so no rulers. 2. Shooting directed at a sqaure rather than individual elements. 3.4 x 4 foot table made up og 6" squares. Or any size square you want to use, 4. Rules for setting up the table that includes input from both players. 5.No umpire needed. 6.once familiar the games alst just under 2 hours. 7. Point system so you can plan the company way before the game night. More details on the PP web site under "want to know more" by PBI rules page. Videos there too. good luck with your gaming martin |
kallman | 24 Jul 2015 7:58 a.m. PST |
For what you have described I am going to be another vote for Fireball Forward. It will do what you need and are looking for and is well supported by the creative team and yahoo group. |
wrgmr1 | 24 Jul 2015 9:11 a.m. PST |
Rapid Fire, not so simple but fun. We played last night. |
Navy Fower Wun Seven | 24 Jul 2015 4:12 p.m. PST |
Battle Group like Piers says. He knows but is biased! I just love the way with these rules you can lay suppressive fire on a suspect position without expecting to actually kill anything, just keep any heads down. 'Brassing up' likely trouble spots is actually how most infantry operated, but these are the first rules I am aware of that address this directly. Also infantry are very hard to kill with direct fire at anything but spitting range – again very accurate. Artillery rules are a little lengthy, but straightforward to apply, so just turn it into a drill – just like gunners did! A good feel for WW2 company-battalion scale action, in 20mm, all round, IMHO. |
combatpainter | 24 Jul 2015 4:14 p.m. PST |
If you could watch a tutorial of each, I doubt they are available although they may be, you could make an informed decision. Otherwise it is a bunch of rules different guys prefer around here. |
christot | 24 Jul 2015 4:44 p.m. PST |
. 'Brassing up' likely trouble spots is actually how most infantry operated, but these are the first rules I am aware of that address this directly. Also infantry are very hard to kill with direct fire at anything but spitting range – Battlefront WWII does exactly this |
War Panda | 24 Jul 2015 7:18 p.m. PST |
Brownbear, First thing I would say is that while I presume you're asking for recommendations for ww2 war games using 20-28mm multi-based minis I would say that in my experience it's pretty unusual to have those size minis multi based; especially the 28mm. I'd also ask why multi based especially? I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass but think I've played about every recommended game listed here at least once and I have enjoyed each one to a greater or lesser degree. If you're asking the community which is ww2 game is best then I think a reasonable explanation of your expectations would help you get more effective suggestions Like most things in life two people will seldom agree on what qualifies as "the best' in any given arena. That goes double for us finicky war gamers! But as I found many years ago when I asked a very similar question, lots of many different suggestions can leave you back where you began. Its almost an fruitless question to ask unless the answer addresses precise wants and desires. You mention "simple" which is fairly ambiguous since I'm not sure if any fan of any game would necessarily describe it as "complex" Also what constitutes as simple to one man may not necessarily be accepted by another. For example: If I was to label any the above games as simple I think Crossfire and possibly Weasel's 5 Core would be on top of the list. Yet while I would define "Crossfire" system as simple I know one guy I played with couldn't get his mind around what the systems mechanics were trying to represent. So while the mechanics could be described as simple for my friend the abstraction of what it represented confused him. I was making an attempt to post videos on YouTube giving examples of various aspects of play of some WW2 rules. Thus far it's only Bolt Action and Crossfire that I managed. I think checking out some tutorial videos or battle reports of games mentioned here might give you a feel for whether the system will float your boat. |
Brownbear | 31 Jul 2015 9:40 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the answers. Will have a look for each of them on the internet; have seen already there is of some rules more information then i thought. Warpanda; i know that "the bst' can be different for everyone, that's why I didn't ask for the best and simple; I will manage most rules I think. Multibased comes from the fact that I played some WW1 games with single based 20mm which I found not to my taste. Maybe for 25mm that's different. From a friend I received Rapid fire rules and I can borrow a Battlegroup book with rules.So i have some work to do. thanks |
Brownbear | 31 Jul 2015 10:45 p.m. PST |
and warpanda, your pictures of the skirmish are great |