"Change Ultramodern Board to Opt-In?" Topic

Currently, the Ultramodern board is "on" for all members who have "Modern" in their preferences (or who have not set any preferences).

Unfortunately, many people find the Ultramodern board irritating, and do not seem able to unsub from the board themselves.

Should the Ultramodern board be changed to require members to actively 'opt in' in order to see it?

No, this is from a guy who HAS turned off the ultramodern board.

I still dont understand the need to cater to people who dont have the ability to not click in on this board.

If someone doesnt like this board, they dont need to enter and then complain afterwards.

Please Bill, dont turn your forum into a nanny site.

No.

If people can't restrain themselves from reading articles they don't like, from posters they don't like, then they are beyond saving.

Self-control is a beautiful thing.

Next, some will want you to ban the Civil War Board, because some subjects there are controversial too. Then, it'll be WWII, the Korean War, Vietnam, GW I and GW II, etc., ad nauseum.

My computer's mouse is my opt-in/opt-out switch.

Yes

IMNSHO, ALL new boards should be opt-in.

Actually I would like TMP to be "opt-in" for all boards. Jest sayin'!

No. It really isn't difficult to go in and turn off that, or any, board that you don't want to read.

Whatever.

I still think there should be two Ultra Modern boards, one for War Gaming and one for Current Politics.

You, too, can propose a poll…

Maybe better education on how to manage boards and their functionality first, look atbsending an email out to all users on how to manage the message boards. It may be that the problem lies not with how they work but in folks knowing how to work them.

The flip side is that if folks are finding it irritating, the issue likely isn't managing the boards but the actual content. The um boards imho fly in the face of no politics rules etc and often appear to have nothing to do with gaming, but turning them off really makes a difference to your TMP experience. As a um gamer I'm happy getting my content for this niche off TMP.

I already did, but no action has yet been taken. I fail to see what initiating another poll will accomplish. You will either eventually act on the previous request or will not. The choice is yours.

and do not seem able to unsub from the board themselves.

It's not that flinkin' hard to unsub a board.

Doug

NOTHING should be "opt in ".
You should have to choose to opt out.

I don't need to "unsub". I just don't GO there.

Robert

It's just in Poll Suggestions limbo

Not limbo, everything is moving smoothly along… we're doing the proposals from March 2015 now.

The "opt in" probably should have been for the Current Affairs board. Instead, the whole board was nuked, and The Blue Fez was created, with more than just an "opt in" requirement to join. Then, we got the Ultramodern board, wherein we could discuss Blue Fez topics on the main page again. Now, it is suggested that Ultramodern might be "opt in?"

I really think that readers should all use their Big Boy skills and excercise some self-restraint about what they choose to read. If my teen and pre-teen daughters can figure out this concept, I see no reason why the entirety of the TMP readership can not. It's not rocket science, people (yes, rocket science is REALLY complicated!)

I see enough free speech stifled by the government (this IS crossposted to Ultramodern, so I can say that, right?) that I don't want Dear Editor and Editresses (is that even a word?) going about making it harder for people to find what others are saying. The choice should be ours, and ours alone.

-Harry

Kyoteblue why don't you just unsub from this board?

This is not your site and you do not get to make the rules.

Move the on.

Of course not: ultra modern is one of my areas of interest.

Why would I want to unsubscribe to something I'm interested in.

I just find it hard having to wade through the irrelevant postings to get to the good stuff.

It's not the board, its (some) of the contents.

But I might have already mentioned that elsewhere…

John T

Why take more time away from working on TMP 4.0 just to cater to people who refuse to use the system that is already in place and that works?

A few fine examples of the intellectual level of current membership… and reasons why TMP will ultimately fail..its members

Texas Jack is absolutely right. Change nothing

Stand your ground Bill…

BTW excellent points bbriarcliffe.

John T

To all of you who are calling those for an opt in options children. Etc.

I would choose "opt-in" because not everything interests me and I think this would allow me to have started TMP with just my interests turned on, all the uninteresting to me boards off (and not filling the screen,) and avoiding some the ridiculous personal insults of some posters on some subjects.

I feel bad for what I wrote. But you are bullies, and its better to get dawghoused then let bullies run riot.

Turn boards OFF if they irritate you.
Use IGNORE and STIFLE on people who irritate you.
Is that too difficult for you? Or do you want to have The Editor in Chief make all the bad people go away?

As for making any new board an opt-in, that makes no sense. It might be something that interests you and you may miss the announcement.
How long does it take to turn a new board OFF? 30 seconds? Less?
"As you wish m'lud. All your petty wishes on a silver platter. Nothing can ever upset you now."

Sometimes I wish I hadn't bothered to join in a discussion because it just makes me annoyed but it's really up to me.

I fail to see what an 'opt in' would achieve. Seems pointless.

Perhaps some kind of warning for people who are veering off on a political tangent – sent by PM – that is less than a Dawghousing but still a friendly reminder to stay on topic.

So people are angry enough to demand it be Opt In and write posts about it but are too Lazy to just turn the board off.

This is not about the board. This is about policing thought.

This is the same thinking that demands the ban on any speech that offends a specific group.

Leave it as is.

You can turn off UM if it bugs you (I have),and if you really want to 'opt in' to something, there is The Blue Fez.

No need for 'op in' (or 'opt out,' for that matter) on
any of 'em.

I just scan titles and click on ones that appear to be
of interest. If I find I've set a foot wrong, just click
out. No harm done.

Easy, eh ?

no

All boards should be opt-in manually, not by default, including new ones created.

I have no interest in Ultramodern wargaming and dont use this site for my political views so no need to opt in or out in my opinion either use it or dont.

All boards should be opt-in manually, not by default, including new ones created.

Wrong. The complete opposite. Take 15 seconds to turn it off.

My default opinion is always the opposite of yours Winston :-)

Lol! Cheers to both Winston and Weasel.

No.

Absolutely Not.

Of course not.

How many are complaining out of the thousands of members here? More or less than 12?

How many are complaining out of the thousands of members here? More or less than 12?

A poll will give us a good idea.

Well than set up the poll, instead of hinting and beating around the bush.
One yes option.
One no option.
One no opinion option.
No more, unless you want a spectrum that washes out any useful data.
Sooner rather than later.

Funny thing about polls about this sort is that those most interested in change are most motivated to vote, while those satisfied or in favor of the current setup are much less likely.

Thus, if there are 20,000 eligible voters here, but only 100 bother to vote, with 50 for, and 50 against change, that really means that there are 50 in favor of change, and 19,950 satisfied with the current system…

Well than set up the poll, instead of hinting and beating around the bush. Sooner rather than later.

Well, this is a post to the Poll Suggestions board, is it not?

EnemyAce – to be fair, we run entire countries on the basis that whoever gets the most votes from those who can be bothered gets to pretend they have a mandate from the nation :-)

I'm with EnemyAce! (smile)

Remember the "Battle for the Soul"?!…

95% of those brave warriors left the forum…

In a short time…

I don't remember a new Forum with so great success like Ultramodern. Even NSFW (which in his days was motive of some battles) grew up so fast.

See the amount of visits and comments. Many of the "old" Forums were outscored in a few months…

Amicalement
Armand

It's true that Ultramodern is a highly popular board…

I've never understood the hate that some have for the "Ultra-Moderns" board. For example, just taking the "General" section of TMP I have little to no interest and have never really followed (and in some cases have never clicked even once on) the following forums:
-Australian Wargaming
-British Wargaming
-Campaign
-Canadian Wargaming
-Clubs
-Computer Moderated Rules
-Dice
-Dioramas
-Dutch-Belgian Wargaming
-Flats
-French Wargaming
-German Wargaming
-Italian Wargaming
-Maps
-New Zealand Wargaming
-Offers and Promotions
-Painting Services
-Paper Modeling
-Photography of Miniatures
-Remote Gaming
-Scratchbuilding
-Sculpting
-Shipping and Customs
-Solo Wargamers
-Spanish Wargaming
-Swedish Wargaming
-TMP Contests
-Utter Drivel
-Wargaming Spouses

Yet, I don't call for the removal of or limiting the access to any of those forums. I just don't visit them.

Again, I just don't get it. Can someone explain it to me?

If there's a thread that's gone off the rails and lead to a mass DHing, my first guess is would be that it is in the Nappie boards. My second guess would be Ultramodern.

There's far too many threads in the Ultramodern that are essentially jail-bait. For every miniature related post, there seems to be a great many that have a political angle. When I wargame with my friends, everyone avoids talking politics. There's just no gain and all it does is spoil the gaming.

to be fair, we run entire countries on the basis that whoever gets the most votes from those who can be bothered gets to pretend they have a mandate from the nation :-)

Do you really want to liken wargamers to politicians? Low blow, man. Low blow.