 ochoin  | 06 Jul 2015 3:52 p.m. PST |
I've bought some of these excellent figures of the hussars of Frederick the Great:
link I plan to use them to create one of the non-Black Hussar regiments (I haven't decided which yet). My question is: did they wear the dolman into battle? As you can see the dolman is detachable in the set, so it's no problem either way. |
| clibinarium | 06 Jul 2015 4:18 p.m. PST |
Its unlikely that they were worn that way on campaign. In hot weather they tended not to wear them, in cold weather they put them on as a jacket. Few people will be so fussy as to complain if you allow them to be worn slung though. |
| Frederick | 06 Jul 2015 4:34 p.m. PST |
All my Prussian hussars have the slung dolman – which can be a pain in the butt for metal figs but I like the way they look |
| abelp01 | 06 Jul 2015 4:38 p.m. PST |
Aren't those pelisse? Yes, I believe they are. |
| Winston Smith | 06 Jul 2015 5:11 p.m. PST |
Foundry SYW Copplestone hussars from the Freikorps range come with the pelisse as a separate piece. You can glue them on or not.
And in the AWI range, Old Glory's Lauzun's Legion come without pelisse and with sword or lance options.
That's 28mm of course. |
| wrgmr1 | 06 Jul 2015 6:28 p.m. PST |
The slung pelisse was used as protection from slashing attacks. The braid, buttons and thick cloth helping to protect the wearer.
On the other hand painting dolman and pelisse is a pain itself! |
| de Ligne | 06 Jul 2015 6:36 p.m. PST |
My hussars must always have a pelisse over the shoulder. It's in standing orders)) |
| ochoin | 06 Jul 2015 7:58 p.m. PST |
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| Cardinal Hawkwood | 06 Jul 2015 8:17 p.m. PST |
actually when worn as a jacket often the dolman wasn't worn ,the pelisse was worn directly over the shirt. When it was cold they wore the cloak.A slung pelisse would be a bloody nuisance one would think when in action
somebody grabs it and chokes you ,or you catch it on a branch and it throttles you.. |
| clibinarium | 07 Jul 2015 6:24 a.m. PST |
Yes I also was thinking of the pelisse rather than the dolman, but ought to have spotted the difference. |
| 42flanker | 07 Jul 2015 11:26 a.m. PST |
As Cardinal Hawkwood has observed the defensive qualities of a slung pelisse in action would not have been great and possibly in direct proportion to its inconvenience. In any case in it would not be likely to sit conveniently over the bridle arm during an advance to contact. Its main value would have been to look dashing in less energetic circumstances. Similar defensive functions have been claimed for plaited side locks affected by French Hussars. I wouldn't care to put that to the test! |
| Zargon | 07 Jul 2015 1:31 p.m. PST |
No pelisse slung equals no woman no cool factor :) I reckon they would wear it in battle even slung as most soldiers of yesteryear wanted to look their best going into battle especially elites like Hussars (remember the Spartans combing and oiling their hair before their final at Thermopylae.
Cheers plus if they were mine they'd know I hadn't given them full kit :) |
| 42flanker | 08 Jul 2015 8:37 a.m. PST |
Hussars may have worn their pelisses slung going into action on occasion but if they looked to them for protection from a sword cut on their left, they might have been disappointed. |
paints brigs for the British fleet.