"Age of Sigmar Up For Preorder" Topic

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GW has managed to get me interested in Fantasy again. I'm not sure I'll be basing the models on the round bases, I'll probably still put them on squares to match what I have already but it looks pretty good.

The number of models you get is impressive in the starter set and with what I have already I should be able to put together a pretty impressive Khorne force.

I have an Empire army already too so maybe this will get me to take up the task of getting that into gaming order again.

It looks like an excellent starter set. It doesn't look like the US price is up yet but I would imagine it will be about $125. USD

Not a bad price at all for 47 figures, rules, dice and decals.

Especially since some of the figures are characters and monsters.

I'm in.

All the lists and rules are up for free in pdf… that is good, and the price of the starter looks good…

I don't like the new minis though, stylewise, sculpts seem good..

But the rules, mmm, not my thing… I don't like that there is no point system, just bring whatever you have … all models are equal, Nagash or a plain skeli for "model count" and model count only matters if one side has x amount more than the other side (for sudden death) or if we ran out of time to count % of models lost…

That just doesn't appeal to me because lack of points implies some obligated choices of models due to effectivness and if it is one of those model I hate then I'm screwed !

I whish they had kept a point system… small skirmishes seemed like a good idea….snif

Francisco

The sculpts remind me of Rock Opera meets 40K meets Warmachine. This may be a good game but I'm saddened by the death of WHFB.

Yes – I was piqued when I read about AoS so have been following the rumor mill and, of course, now have looked at the rules and the (what I think are "stop gap") army lists. My interest has waned now. I've always looked at GW games as something that I can go to a local store and pop down "x number of points" of troops and get a game going with a total stranger, and I don't have to try to drum up interest in playing since "everybody" plays. As many people have stated I don't see how this game can be played in a tournament environment as it stands.

As for the mini's in the box set, yes GW always gives you a pretty good deal in the boxed set. I might buy it and use the mini's for HoTT or Fantasy Rules! or something (I prefer "mass battles" to skirmish).

Ugh…. do not like the minis

I will pass on this.

Most of the gamers locally are excited by the simple skirmish rules, but have zero interest in the figures.

The new figures look really wild. They would be a blast to paint.
Can you still use existing armies in Age of Sigmar, like Empire or Skaven for example? The starter set armies look like a cross between Warhammer and 40K.

They have stats for all the old armies on here:

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Plus the free rules.

Not trying to be a butt, but where are the Chaos Dwarves?

Now I have not yet put models on the table and played it. But I have read the rules and looked through the PDFs for the armies I own for Oldhammer. I am very interested in giving this a try. It looks like a nice blend of Oldhammer free form army building with some of the newer editions bells and whistles all wrapped up in a dare I say Kings of War rules knockoff.
Having spent the last few months playing with historical gamers, who use forces that "look right" matched up rather then equaling up to some guessed at point values. I am not so worried out the lack of points for models.
I will probably throw down a solo test game tomorrow to try it out.

The new models don't excite me but as a Skaven collector who hasn't played WFB in a few releases I'm not their market. This looks like a 40K army marine vs chaos release which pull in some new blood to the Fantasy game.

A brief scan through the Skaven rules looks like it kept all of the insane warmachines I liked to field. I will probably give the rules a go just as an excuse to bring out my old army.

Looked at the figs.
Response: Yuck.

Just because you can stick more detailed crap on a figure doesn't mean it's not crap.

Absolute dreck.

Well, I'm not their market and never will be. At one time WFB was tempting to me. If these are the sorts of figures they intend to put out for the latest incarnation, it will never be the case again.

I have no comment on the rules; the figs have completely put me off from even looking.

lack of points

How are they balancing pick up games?

Wait a sec. Free rules, free army lists, and I can still use all my or and wood elf models?
Why the complaints? And, being a little sceptical, is there a catch?
No interest in the box thing or fluff, but this doesn't seem the apocalypse every has predicted.
Thanks for the battle report.

As for "balancing pick up games" I don't know. What I have seen people doing so far today is using the wounds stat as sort of a point value. They have been playing games with models totaling up to 50 or 100 wounds.

So WFB replaced by WAS, what happens if WAS flops?

Your old armies don't need rebasing, these new rules are for free. That's good, right? And more:

The lists are actually fun to read and play.
The rules are different, sure, but play is more engaging.
Big models go down in effectiveness just like big units, that's good!
You can organize units into bigger formations with special rules.
And yes, no point costs, but so what? You can agree on the number of scrolls or formations each will use, or else be the underdog and try to win by Sudden Death. It balances, one way or the other.

Plus I think it might even do well as a tournament set: you can bring whatever you like, so people will spend a fortune to fill the table with demon lords or ueber super war engines, or try to win as underdog. Both are ways to be very competitive, which is what tournaments are all about.

And wait, the boxed set has great miniatures for GBP 1.50 a piece: not bad!

Cheers

Why is it that all these people who claim to have stopped playing Warhammer (FB or 40k) years ago still pick up on threads and whinge about it?

Why is it that all these people who claim to have stopped playing Warhammer (FB or 40k) years ago still pick up on threads and whinge about it?

The bitterness that follows unrequited love.

Well, if it means I can use some of my old figures to get an occasional game and it doesn't degenerate into a 40K style "Must have the latest big toy to win" arms race I might give it a try. Won't be buying any new stuff for it though.

Played a game today. Rules worked well and have nuances we didnt appreciate during a read through. We just "eye balled" the forces. It wasn't perfect, but close enough. All those jumping off the bridge because the rules are "silly" or not complex enough most likely havent played.

How are they balancing pick up games?

Oh they leave that up to the gamers.

For fantasy the figures look terrible. I will definitely pass.

Not sure what to think but Warhammer was clearly becoming the unwanted little brother of 40k. They said you can use any of your old gw figs so they are desparate to get people in this.

On a quick look it looks like fights between $100 USD figures
and those golden guys are space marines…

They have stats for all the old armies on here:

Yes and I see that High Elves are quite nasty again since they no longer suffer from being only Strength 3 Toughness 3.

Plus their Repeating Bolt Throwers are decent again with having 6 Attacks and having the ability to move if needed.

Also they can field lots of units that have a weapon distance or 2"

Which by the way is a way that some players will use to their advantage.

Move that unit of Phoenex Guard up so that your model is 2" away from your opponent's 1" only weapons and slaughter them.

Plus it is looking like "Herohammer" is back as well as.

I can also see players trying to use their heroes/warlords that have D3 wound weapons to kill off units.

So your Warlord has a weapon that hits on 3+ and wounds on 3+ and causes D3 wounds per hit.

Oh and this Warlord has 6 attacks so they can get real lucky and cause up to 18 wounds to an unit.

Yup "Herohammer" is back.

I sort of like the idea of the faux northern renaissance giving way to bonzo stuff.

I also like the idea of Sigmar being a nicer chaos god and the Empire for once instead of summoning fatalism to tamp down the dread just rushing in joyfully shouting "Hammers fer the blood god's wee stooges! Free smacks for slaves o' darkness! Wheeee!You daft norse lads are paste and none too soon! Why didn't ye come south sooner you soft stupid things ta hit! I've been bored! "

preorder 250 and you can add some special things and get it even higher.

Yup, GW is acting like a Drug dealer who gives you free drugs to get you hooked and then they will take you to the cleaners.

Not Elves, Aelves(TM).

And Orks are Ooruks.

SMH

This is funny….

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These are supposedly actual rules now:

Braying Warcry: Red-hot rage festers in
the savage minds of Wargors, their only
desire to rend and destroy. You can add 1
to all hit rolls made for a Wargor if, before
rolling the dice, you let loose a primal
warcry. Your warcry must use no actual
words, but angry grunts and raging snorts
are encouraged.

The Mad Count: Marius Leitdorf is an
exceptional swordsman, even if he is totally
insane. If, during your hero phase, you
pretend to ride an imaginary horse, you
can re-roll failed hit rolls for the Averland
Runefang until your next hero phase. If
you actually talk to your imaginary horse
you can re-roll failed wound rolls as well.

Bloodwrack Stare: When making a
Bloodwrack Stare attack, pick a visible
unit within range and roll a dice for each
model in that unit; for each roll of 6 or
more that unit suffers a mortal wound as
they foolishly meet the Medusa's deadly
gaze. You can add 1 to these dice rolls if,
between the time you declare the target of
the attack and time you roll the dice, your
opponent looks you directly in the eye

And there are others….

Hmmm….. LARP'ing while wargaming seems to be the thing these days… :-D

This is funny….

No, it's hilarious!

Thanks for sharing!