"1660s Portugese uniform colours?" Topic
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Ney Ney | 02 Jul 2015 1:26 p.m. PST |
Can anyone suggest what colours their coats were? Featherstone's otherwise helpful Pike & Shot book doesn't help here. Are there any other good uniform books covering minor nations in this period? Thanks! |
jefritrout | 02 Jul 2015 1:42 p.m. PST |
I haven't been able to find good sources myself for Portugal. You can try Gustavo Barroso's Uniformes Do Exercito Brasiliero, which is in some libraries and it has plates of the Brasilian (Portuguese) armies of that colonial period. What I recall is seeing more white and blue in their uniforms. |
Don Sebastian | 02 Jul 2015 4:27 p.m. PST |
Check those posts. They are from a wonderful blog by a portuguese author discussing the use of uniforms during the portuguese restoration war (the posts are in portuguese, though): link |
Ney Ney | 02 Jul 2015 4:41 p.m. PST |
Ooh, lovely! Thanks for this! |
Don Sebastian | 02 Jul 2015 7:13 p.m. PST |
There is also this painting, on the same blog, by Dirk Stoop, representing portuguese infantry during the 1650s: link |
jefritrout | 03 Jul 2015 9:36 a.m. PST |
Reading the article it pretty much states: There were no uniform colors for the Portuguese. If you are working on armies for the Wars of Restoration here is a summary of the Portuguese from the linked article. For Infantry : The Patron (Colonel) of each tercio tended to supply his own troops with uniforms. It does go on to say that BROWNS and GRAYS tended to dominate the colors though. He also stated that the Portuguese were good traders and had lots of influence from all over and so had uniform pieces from many foreign sources. If you are using English allies, then the English provided some red uniforms, and if you have French allies then gray uniforms were provided. Portuguese were just starting to have units in uniforms at this point, but many units were still without. For Cavalry : There really was no uniform color. This was individual men providing their own. The units were grouped together based on equipment each man arrived to the muster carrying. However he does go on to identify 4 units that had matching short coats in 1663. Schomberg wore blue, one unidentified wore red with white crosses, Juan de Austria wore yellow and finally Monte Claro used light brown. If you want to do the Sugar Wars vs the Dutch in Brasil, I would go with blues, grays and whites. (That is the army that I researched.) |
Don Sebastian | 03 Jul 2015 11:45 a.m. PST |
The article on the infantry also mentions the Tercio of the Navy (Terço da Armada Real), which had green coats with yellow lining, and the Tercio of the City of Lisbon, which had blue coats with red lining. However, those units made an impression precisely because it wasn't that common to have that amount of uniformity in the portuguese army of the time. Jefritrout, do you have any information about the uniforms of the sugar wars in Brasil? What are some good sources? |
jefritrout | 06 Jul 2015 7:44 a.m. PST |
Sorry I was unavailable this weekend to respond. Most of my sources are Brasilian books that I have picked up. Some don't have any uniform information at all, though there is information on various campaigns. Some have copies of pictures in Sao Paulo and Rio museums only. Very few have actual details, but one of the terco (tercio) that came over from Europe in 1629 had blue jackets. (I think that was described in Diccionario do Battalhaes Brasilieros.) The best book I remember for pictures was a children's book celebrating the 500th anniversary of Brasil. |
Don Sebastian | 06 Jul 2015 4:44 p.m. PST |
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