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madcam2us01 Jul 2015 4:32 p.m. PST

Ok, picked up a great buy on Flea-bay. enough french troops to do 5 battalions for GdB 1812+ uniform. about 50-50 split between overcoated and campaign uniform chaps. all have port arm advanceing…

to me they are fine… what about the button counters?

Thoughts?

Madcam.

John Armatys01 Jul 2015 5:05 p.m. PST

I'd do two of each and one mixed.

Let the button counters count (they enjoy that sort of thing!. The figures were a bargain!

Major Bloodnok01 Jul 2015 5:27 p.m. PST

French troops at port-arms? Curiouser and curiouser. Other than the British has anyone seen a period print of troops advancing at port-arms? I can think of one of French troops advancing with the musket held vertically against the right side. What was known as the "recover" in earlier British manuals

Supercilius Maximus02 Jul 2015 12:13 p.m. PST

madcam,

These are your figures, so do with them what you will. However, since you asked……

Wargamers love a "pot pourri" as it breaks up the boredom of painting large numbers of troops, especially where the infantry all have exactly the same uniform. In reality, it was the norm to attempt uniformity within battalions at least, if not entire regiments and brigades, to give a good appearance in terms of clothing. And in battle, the same norm applied – battalions either wore greatcoats or they did not – it wasn't an individual choice. Towards the end of the Napoleonic Wars, admittedly, when the French supply systems were falling apart, the rank-and-file wore what they could get. But otherwise, unit commanders within a regiment would swap and share in order to achieve uniformity. In some instances, there are orders from brigade commanders as to whether men should wear their greatcoats or not – and these were not items that would wear out quickly, so a few men might have lost theirs, but the great mass of a battalion would have them on, or not.

I'd say John Armatys' suggestion of 2+2 and 1 mixed is the best option available to you. Btw, the official colour for French greatcoats was beige, not blue (Garde and artillery) or grey (captured items). Again, these would tend to be the same colour throughout a battalion, if not a whole regiment.

[To be completely honest, I'm mainly an AWI wargamer and I see a similar phenomenon in AWI units, with gamers mixing uniforms and hunting shirts willy-nilly, whereas the uniforms would be allocated to NCOs first, and then by company, not scattered about the battalion; hunting shirts ditto. AWI units should be a mix of uniform bases, not individuals.]

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