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Tango0129 Jun 2015 10:10 p.m. PST

… And Not The Islamic State).

"National Security Council meets to discuss plan to send in troops to set up buffer zone and prevent formation of Kurdish state

Turkey's security cabinet was on Monday considering plans to send troops into Syria for the first time, turning the civil war into an international conflict on Europe's borders.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has authorised a change in the rules of engagement previously agreed by the Turkish parliament to allow the army to strike at Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, as well as the Assad regime.

But he has suggested the main target of the intervention, if it goes ahead, will be to prevent the emergence of a new Kurdish state on Turkey's doorstep. The local Syrian Kurdish militia, the YPG, has established dominance in a border strip across the north of the country in recent month, fighting off Isis…"
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Cyrus the Great29 Jun 2015 11:07 p.m. PST

Well now it's in the open!

Mako1129 Jun 2015 11:34 p.m. PST

With "allies" like these……..

Jemima Fawr30 Jun 2015 4:22 a.m. PST

If the Kurds hadn't spent years murdering tourists in Turkey, they might have found more international support…

zippyfusenet30 Jun 2015 4:30 a.m. PST

What effect do you think open war with the Kurds will have on the Turkish tourist industry?

Klebert L Hall30 Jun 2015 6:32 a.m. PST

Over the long term? If the Turks win, positive. If they lose, negative.

The Turks are far from being saints, so are the Kurds. So is everyone.

-Kle.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse30 Jun 2015 7:54 a.m. PST

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has authorised a change in the rules of engagement previously agreed by the Turkish parliament to allow the army to strike at Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, as well as the Assad regime.

But he has suggested the main target of the intervention, if it goes ahead, will be to prevent the emergence of a new Kurdish state on Turkey's doorstep. The local Syrian Kurdish militia, the YPG,
Well … they may doing the right thing for the wrong reasons with the priority being the Kurds. But in that area it's open season it seems on everybody ! It just may be a good excuse to go after their traditional enemy the Kurds. Then just shoot at everybody else who ain't a Turk … Like AQ, etc. … What about the FSA ? We'll have wait and see … It could be just politicos talking Bleeped text

Aristonicus02 Jul 2015 5:01 a.m. PST

The Turkish Army isn't so keen:

Turkey's government wants more active military action to support the Free Syrian Army (FSA) against the regime, Kurdish and jihadist forces in Syrian territory, but the military is reluctant to do so, playing for time as the country heads for a new coalition government, official sources told the Hürriyet Daily News.

The military does not want to get into a major military action on the directives of the Justice and Development Party (AK Parti) government which lost its parliamentary majority in the June 7 elections. The coalition talks to form a new government with either the Republican Peoples' Party (CHP) or the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) will start next week and if a new government is formed in weeks' time, the directive which might lead to a war could be obsolete. It is a fact that if the CHP becomes a coalition partner, which is more likely, that Turkey's policy on Syria and ISIL could change.

There is also the factor of a reshuffle among military ranks. The office of Özel ends in August and civilian sources speculate that he is playing with time in order not to become the general that takes Turkey into war at a critical time.

hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-army-reluctant-over-government-will-to-intervene-in-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=84620&NewsCatID=409

Aristonicus02 Jul 2015 5:07 a.m. PST

Jordan may be stepping up instead:

Jordan is preparing to set up a security zone in southern Syria to prevent a jihadi victory in the area, carving out the first humanitarian "buffer zone" for rebels and refugees in four years of civil war.
The main aim of the operation will be to create a safe area on Jordan's border, stretching across the southern Syrian provinces of Deraa and Suwayda, and including the city of Deraa, where the Syrian uprising began in 2011, according to people familiar with the plans.

ft.com/cms/s/0/ead1961a-1e38-11e5-ab0f-6bb9974f25d0.html#axzz3ejdDvtxH

Aristonicus02 Jul 2015 5:19 a.m. PST

The Brooking Institute is proposing the same:

The idea would be to help moderate elements establish reliable safe zones within Syria once they were able. American, as well as Saudi and Turkish and British and Jordanian and other Arab forces would act in support, not only from the air but eventually on the ground via special forces. The approach would benefit from Syria's open desert terrain which could allow creation of buffer zones that could be monitored for possible signs of enemy attack. Western forces themselves would remain in more secure positions in general—within the safe zones but back from the front lines—at least until the reliability of such defenses, and also local allied forces, made it practical to deploy and live in more forward locations.

brookings.edu/blogs/order-from-chaos/posts/2015/06/30-deconstructing-syria-ohanlon

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse02 Jul 2015 6:47 a.m. PST

Yes, it appears the Turks, the 2d largest military in NATO, seems to be not too concerned about Daesh, AQ, etc., slaughtering fellow moslems em mass. Now I thought at one point Jordan and Egypt proposed a Joint Expedionary Force of sorts. To take the fight to Daesh/AQ. With US, intel, log, etc. support. However, it was believed it would widen the conflict with the Persian/Iraqi Shias seeing this Sunni EF rolling in to exterminate Daesh. As a threat, etc. … So the idea was shelved. And the wholesale slaughter of moslems by other moslems continues. It seems to me this Joint Arab EF would be part of the solution. But as always the religious, ethnic, tribal, etc., difference trumps all in the region. Regardless this has to be a solution where locals taking the fight to the jihadis and not the infidels[the West] being on the ground in large numbers. We have tried this before. The moslems have to work this out among themselves. And as we see this is/will be a bloody conflict, and region wide moslem civil war.

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