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Hunlion28 Jun 2015 4:08 a.m. PST

I want to have a go at making some Game of Thrones figures but I am not sure which period of figures to use. In the TV series there is quite a mix of styles. What do think I should use mainly

1. HYW.
2. War of the roses.
3. Early Italian wars.
4. Scottish wars.
5. all of them.

Thanks for your input in advance.

Hunlion

Jimmy da Purple28 Jun 2015 4:25 a.m. PST

I used a mixture of Perry and Fireforge. For the knights I used war of roses, but for the lower troops I mixed in HYW. I figured the poorer and basic troops would have more out of date stuff. I even used some Viking bodies with medieval heads as bidowers.

Fonzie28 Jun 2015 4:28 a.m. PST

I asked a very similar question a couple months ago and this are the answers that I received: TMP link

For my own armies I have decide on this based not on the HBO series but on the books:

Iron Isles: Anglo-Saxons and Vikings with medieval shields instead or round ones and some headswaps with Ironforge foot sergeants.
The North: Also some of the above mixed with Ironforge archers and men at arms. A lot of greenstuff animal skin capes. The northern lords and knights I will do with figures in chainmail also with added capes.
The Vale, the Stormlands and the Riverlands: HYW and some War of the Roses mixed with Ironforge sergeants and knights.
The Westerlands and Iron throne forces: mostly War of the Roses troops, plate mail for lords and knights with some Fireforge and HYW mixed in as poorly armed levies.

The more south in Westeros my troops are from the better quality armour they will get.

I'm not going to do Dorne, the Nights Watch, Wildlings and the Reach so I have not given those some thought.

Hope this helps.

uglyfatbloke28 Jun 2015 4:34 a.m. PST

Scottish wars and early HYW should be pretty much the same thing and, I think, do nicely for most GoT armies. My wife's Vikings stand in for others.
I'm thinking about converting a big pile of plastic Orcs into Unsullied if I can find a small enough knife and pair of tweezers to deal with their goolies.

jowady28 Jun 2015 5:43 a.m. PST

If you want to go with what George RR Martin envisions you can get an idea here:

link

just plug in "Game of Throne" in the search engine and enjoy. These figures are made expressly to his ideas. Note though that these are intricate and very expensive minis, too expensive for most to build an army out of. Also, unfortunately they are around 32mm, and while very nice they are huge next to 28mms. I had thought to get some characters (actually I modified Jon Snow into Prince Valiant and Cersei into Queen Aleta but since that's for an extremely small project I can do it) but unless you put them at some distance from 28 they look like giants. But you can use this as a guide.

From it I assume Wildings are basically like Dark Age figures. Unsullied, who knows, maybe late Romans? Dorne seems a cross between Spanish and Arabic. Anyway this is just a guess, my advice would be to have fun with it. Figure the Lannisters and the immediate forces under King Robert and his brothers have the best stuff, full plate Gothic style knights, and work out from there, the further you get the poorer and "older", as regards period, the armor gets, always assuming that the nobles are a cut above.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2015 6:33 a.m. PST

I would go simple and say:

Starks: Early 100 years war
Lannisters and similar: Late 100yrs war French/WOTR
Iron Islanders, Early medieval Scots

I think Plastic is the way to go, as you can swap and modify much more easily, though I would stick with one manufacturer as much as possible to ensure compatability of parts.

Good luck with this worthy project!, but dont leave it too long to get started, Winter is Coming!

Goonfighter28 Jun 2015 6:48 a.m. PST

I've stuck plastic Minas Tirith heads onto perry WOTR men at arms bodies.
Boromir by GW is a good Ned Stark of course.
WOTR in South and progressively earlier kit as you move out wards and north is a good basis but don't be too rigid about that – my Stark standard is carried by a HYW knight and his escort is in full WOTR harness. Both have fur cloaks though. I've seen good braavosi produced by putting warlord TYW command arms onto the lighter armoured perry WOTR retinue bodies.

I'd strongly suggest you buy several boxes of pastic from dark ages to WOTR and just have fun. Flags of war do banners with wolves, lions, three headed dragons etc so use those to tie the figures in. GW capes save you messing about w greenstuff, if you can find them on ebay. There seemed to be a shortage when I last looked…..

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2015 8:37 a.m. PST

Some of the armor used by daddy lanister has a very thirty years war generals armor to it.

But they seem to be cerimonial

JezEger28 Jun 2015 2:24 p.m. PST

I always thought the Lannister boys looked more like Samurai. Wargames Factory might be worth a look.

Intrepide28 Jun 2015 3:28 p.m. PST

It is fantasy. Suit yourself entirely.

Major Function29 Jun 2015 4:09 a.m. PST

There is a Game of Thrones site that suggests that the North was based around the 1200s and 1300s. The armour being chain and great helms whilst the south was more advanced 1400s and 1500s with plate armour.

It also referred to Dornish armour being made of dics.

I have tried checking my computer for the website but I can't find it.

wminsing29 Jun 2015 7:18 a.m. PST

Straight from the horse's mouth, Question 2:
link

So the main thrust is HYW is what he had in mind, the North is more 'primitive' (more chain), south gets more advanced stuff, though as others point out smaller/poorer houses probably don't have 'the latest' stuff either.

-Will

Codsticker29 Jun 2015 9:04 a.m. PST

It also referred to Dornish armour being made of dics.

Surely not…
;)

Goonfighter29 Jun 2015 11:36 a.m. PST

Well, if that is what Dornish armour is made of, it explains why the slavers wanted to sell part of Tyrion to an um, dics merchant.

Prince of Derekness30 Jun 2015 2:46 a.m. PST

Well thats an Osprey Ill not be buying

Thomas Thomas07 Jul 2015 12:57 p.m. PST

It depends on whether you want to use the book version or the weird HBO serias version.

If you want to do HBO – good luck.

If you want to do the book version, your in luck. Martin has very good descriptions in the books but here's a gamer product short hand:

North: Fireforge but with high lords (ie Starks) more mid-HYW (so Perry).

Riverlands: HYW Perry brothers.

Stormlands/Reach/High Garden: WOTR Perry Brothers.

Dorne: Spanish/Arab mash up.

Iron Born: Viking/Early HYW mashup – use plastics swap arms and heads etc.

Essos: tough – maybe Mongols for Dothraki; need "pointed" helms for Unsullied have not found a good source yet. Dany's ex-slave army can be drawn from many sources.

If your interested we are doing a big Game of Ice and Fire big battle (based on DBA 3.0) at Historicon Saturday night. Any 25mm+ army is welcome.

TomT

Norman D Landings12 Jul 2015 4:40 a.m. PST

Unsullied?
Greek Hoplites for the base figures – use uncrested helmets and paint the cuirass up as cuir-boulli.

Personally, I could live with the 'inaccurate' tunic, but if you couldn't, then use bare arms (options in some mfr's Hoplite packs, and widely available elsewhere: WF Zulus, Perry Sudanese, etc).
I'd greenstuff breeches from tunic-hem to sandal-top, and call it done.

Wildlings:
You're going to have to get busy with the greenstuff fur – just depends how busy you want to get!
I reckon the best (i.e. least work needed) starting figures would be Gripping Beast's 'Tribal Warriors' from their Baltic Crusades range and Newline Design's VIK04 & VIK05 Viking packs.
Those guys already have animal-hide jerkins. I'd give them fur cloaks, paint up their clothing sealskin grey and be happy with that.

I'm surpised nobody's mentioned the GW LotR figures yet: 'Rohan' are Northerners right out of the box.
Lose the fantasy weapons and shields and trim the helmet-crests, and their Easterlings would make 'close enough' Lannister retinue troops for me.

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