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Tango0123 Jun 2015 10:43 p.m. PST

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Tgunner24 Jun 2015 2:23 a.m. PST

Although the defenders of Hulayhilah could count on more men and heavy weaponry than their adversaries, the fighters of the Islamic State were already too close to the town to be hit with artillery. Instead of utilising the remaining weapon systems, or making a last ditch effort to counter and possible stop this sudden assault by the fighters of the Islamic State while entrenched in the many buildings in Hulayhilah, most entered the nearest vehicle they could find and drove off or fled on foot, leaving their comrades behind.

The fighters of the Islamic State subsequently chased some of the fleeing regime forces down, which stood no chance in the vast and empty desert. Others that didn't flee fought to their deaths or were captured and executed, some of them after being found hiding in two vehicle pits.

Sounds too familar. I guess the Iraqi Army isn't the only Arab army who cuts and runs when the going gets rough. Sadly, these guys would probably be okay if they "stuck to their guns" and fought it out.

Tgunner24 Jun 2015 2:31 a.m. PST

What's this? It kind of reminds me of a WWI era M1916 37mm infantry gun.

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse24 Jun 2015 6:02 a.m. PST

I guess the Iraqi Army isn't the only Arab army who cuts and runs when the going gets rough.
It seems to be a regional/cultural norm … What makes it worse is all the blood and treasure wasted on those that appear don't deserve it.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse24 Jun 2015 6:03 a.m. PST

Tgunner, that may be an improvised weapon in the top pic ? I had a model of the Infantry Gun, BTW …

Prince Alberts Revenge24 Jun 2015 4:09 p.m. PST

Chinese single tube rocket launcher?

Jemima Fawr26 Jun 2015 11:22 a.m. PST

It's an Iranian 107mm rocket-launcher. I can't remember the designation.

Tango0126 Jun 2015 11:50 a.m. PST

Thanks!

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse26 Jun 2015 2:15 p.m. PST

Yes ! Thanks Jem ! Does not look very high tech …

Jemima Fawr26 Jun 2015 2:33 p.m. PST

Indeed not. For many years, various guerilla groups have been making their own ad hoc launchers for single BM-21 122mm Grad and BM-14 140mm rockets that are renowned for their lack of accuracy or any sort of military value. This seems to be a factory-built extension of that idea.

tuscaloosa26 Jun 2015 5:52 p.m. PST

"I guess the Iraqi Army isn't the only Arab army who cuts and runs when the going gets rough."

I think guerilla fighting a la Lawrence of Arabia is more their forte, for cultural and historical reasons.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse27 Jun 2015 7:42 a.m. PST

I agree with that tuscaloosa … I wish the Iraqis went "guerilla" on Daesh like they did with the US and the Coalition in GWII. But that won't happen for a number of reasons. Among the reasons, many of those fighters went to Daesh. And as a 1ID Vet mentioned to me, which made sense. We killed off a lot of their "good" fighters as well.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse27 Jun 2015 7:47 a.m. PST

For many years, various guerilla groups have been making their own ad hoc launchers for single BM-21 122mm Grad and BM-14 140mm rockets that are renowned for their lack of accuracy or any sort of military value.
Yes, we see this time and time again with Hamas and others like them. As the West strives for accuracy. To hit the target and limit collateral damage. Most/all guerilla/terrorists/jihadi types are happy with their weapons if they just hit a bunch of buildings. Regardless of their military value if any, etc. …

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