capncarp | 23 Jun 2015 8:01 a.m. PST |
link A gel that, when injected into an open wound, seals it, forms a bandage, and stops the bleeding. Hmmmm…. Seems a little film made from a short-lived TV series showed us something rather like that. Remember in the film "Serenity" when Simon applies what looks like insulation foam to Zoe's back wound? |
Mako11 | 23 Jun 2015 8:42 a.m. PST |
Actually, predating Serenity, wasn't Superglue a spinoff of surgical glue they've been using for a number of decades now? That's what I've heard. |
Insomniac | 23 Jun 2015 8:45 a.m. PST |
There is similar stuff in the military that has been around for a while and is being regularly improved upon… it's called Quik-Clot. It's not a gel but it works. |
Cyrus the Great | 23 Jun 2015 8:51 a.m. PST |
You would think that the FDA would have a program to fast track certain products, especially something that could stop arterial bleeds and deep wounds. Battlefield applications anybody? Of course, I don't know the money trail and it always comes down to money and some major pharmaceutical company might have their own product looming on the horizon. |
rmaker | 23 Jun 2015 9:33 a.m. PST |
You would think that the FDA would have a program to fast track certain products Unlikely. The usual wisdom when I was working in the medical device industry was "Remember, today's senior FDA staff were junior staffers when the Thalidomide crisis hit. No fast track, ever." FDA inspectors are very serious and very literal minded. We had a device in clinical trials where three of the patients (at different times) were run over by city busses. The company had to get the courts to rule that it wasn't necessary to list getting hit by a bus as a side effect! |
Zargon | 23 Jun 2015 9:38 a.m. PST |
Don't worry Cyrus, India will do a decent knockoff of the product and we outside the land of the free will have it available at 100th the price in a western 1st world economy :) Cheers |
skinkmasterreturns | 23 Jun 2015 9:47 a.m. PST |
A decent knock off,with a warning that goes,"May not stop bleeding but will definately strain it a bit"? |
Cyrus the Great | 23 Jun 2015 2:30 p.m. PST |
Maybe, I'll just say I have a dog! |
Lion in the Stars | 23 Jun 2015 5:37 p.m. PST |
You would think that the FDA would have a program to fast track certain products, especially something that could stop arterial bleeds and deep wounds. Battlefield applications anybody? The US military doesn't need to wait for FDA approval before it can use a new product. And there's one unpleasant downside to Quik-Clot: it BURNS worse than iodine. Hurts like hell, but you're not bleeding anymore. |
Weasel | 24 Jun 2015 10:48 a.m. PST |
A good argument that scifi game campaign rules should (slightly) increase the chance of wounded troopers being restored to action. |
billthecat | 24 Jun 2015 3:37 p.m. PST |
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Lion in the Stars | 24 Jun 2015 8:01 p.m. PST |
@BilltheCat: not quite, CrazyGlue contains cyanide so isn't necessarily recommended for use on open wounds. This didn't stop backpackers from using it in their first aid kits before you could get single-use packages of WoundGlue(tm), but it isn't quite the same. |
kmfrye | 25 Jun 2015 8:33 a.m. PST |
Cyrus, Yes, the FDA does have a fast-track program, for exactly what you describe (and among others, I suppose). There's an application process, then a presentation, then a decision. Prior to this, there will be at least a year of clinical trials on volunteers. "Fast" being in the eye of the beholder. : ) Regards, Keith F. |