"Varyag at Chemulpo Bay: Painting Guide?" Topic
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Editor in Chief Bill | 21 Jun 2015 7:55 p.m. PST |
The photo of Varyag steaming out to battle shows the ship as overall dark – perhaps in the black wartime hull color. Or is it just a dark photograph? (Varyag on left)
And another:
But since the war had just started, I would expect her to look more like this:
Note that the stacks look dark in both photos – should be ochre yellow, right? And paintings:
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ColCampbell | 22 Jun 2015 7:21 a.m. PST |
Here is a good painting article from War Time Journal that I found useful when painting my Russo-Japanese War 1:2400 scale ships. link Jim |
Jeff Ewing | 22 Jun 2015 12:00 p.m. PST |
It's pretty common for objects which are yellow to show up very dark in turn of the century photos. This is due to the photo emulsion of the period. You're probably familiar with this famous photo of TR:
We know that he is wearing yellow USV Cavalry arm-of-service patches on his collar. They show up as almost black. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 22 Jun 2015 4:29 p.m. PST |
I guess here is what puzzles me: 1. Since this is right at the start of the war, the Varyag should still be in peacetime white hull, right? But the photo doesn't look white at all. 2. Could the Varyag already be in wartime colors (black hull)? Could she have repainted in one day? Or were the Russian ships already in wartime colors, despite the war being a surprise? 3. Some pictures show Varyag as being gray hull, but I've seen no evidence for Russian ships with gray hull at this period. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 24 Jun 2015 5:32 p.m. PST |
This picture claims to show Varyag at Chemulpo Bay. The date is 21 February, which must be the date of publication of the photo, as the battle was over by then. picture This one is dated 27 January 1904, and seems to show a repainted Varyag prior to battle: picture Looks like a two-tone color scheme on the hull. But the same section is also a lighter shade in the pre-war color scheme, so it may just be that one section of the upper hull protrudes a little and catches the light. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 24 Jun 2015 5:48 p.m. PST |
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Cloudy | 27 Jun 2015 7:09 p.m. PST |
Not that it is any way authoritative, the Kagero publication "Protected Cruiser Varyag" indicates on page 13 the following: "At the turn of September and October the cruiser was dry-docked and repainted into olive camouflage scheme on all vertical surfaces." |
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