Grelber | 21 Jun 2015 10:36 a.m. PST |
I've got a couple books that are technically children's books that seem like pretty good historical references. The Legend of Odysseus by Peter Connolly has Connolly's drawings of scenes from the Trojan War, artists' concepts of what Troy and Mycenae looked like, and drawings of Mycenaean era archaeological finds. I was recently given The Encyclopedia of the Ancient World by Charlotte Hurdman, Philip Steels, and Richard Tames, which seems to be geared to 10-11 year olds. In addition to lots of photos and drawings, it has kids' projects including making a replicas of a prehistoric hunter's home, a wood henge, an Ancient Egyptian house, a pyramid, a reed boat, a shaduf, a Greek temple, and a Roman aqueduct. Some of these look like they might be useful for gaming, and I'm going to have to give them a try. I realize these aren't scholarly publications, but they contain useful information, to my way of thinking. Do any others use children's books as resources? Grelber |
Leadpusher | 21 Jun 2015 10:44 a.m. PST |
I would imagine that some research, however minimal, went into the drawings. So they would be as good as some "historical" renderings. |
Cyrus the Great | 21 Jun 2015 11:22 a.m. PST |
Yes, I do. There are a number interesting books on a variety of topics out there! |
Moe Ronn | 21 Jun 2015 11:31 a.m. PST |
I read a fair few when I want a readable overview of a subject without trudging through 4-500+ pages. If I'm still interested, then I look for the "real" books. |
Zargon | 21 Jun 2015 11:33 a.m. PST |
That's part of the reason I got to be a gamer :D very happy to have the charm of childrens books as part of my sources to gaming, some of these books have great and very colourful illustrations too. Cheers |
Bashytubits | 21 Jun 2015 11:39 a.m. PST |
The accuracy for portraying star bellied sneetches is unsurpassed by these sources.
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Graycat | 21 Jun 2015 11:45 a.m. PST |
Given the variety of anthropomorphic figures now available (especially the excellent ones from Dark Sword), I've been trying to develop a campaign based on 'The Wind in the Willows' (The Wind and the Lion in the Willows)(and in the Wardrobe?). I've got Badger, Ratty and Toad, but I'm still looking for Mole… |
kodiakblair | 21 Jun 2015 12:30 p.m. PST |
I always planed on using the Usborne Books Cut-out models like these. link They're 1/72 scale and fairly cheap so I really should get a move on. |
galvinm | 21 Jun 2015 12:31 p.m. PST |
Oh yes. Especially the look inside books by Osborne. |
Herkybird | 21 Jun 2015 12:37 p.m. PST |
Ewart Oakeshott's books got me into Medieval gaming! Fun, but well researched! |
dampfpanzerwagon | 21 Jun 2015 12:40 p.m. PST |
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Wackmole9 | 21 Jun 2015 12:45 p.m. PST |
yes They have some nice building drawings and maps.
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MajorB | 21 Jun 2015 1:01 p.m. PST |
I always planned on using the Usborne Books Cut-out models like these.link They're 1/72 scale and fairly cheap so I really should get a move on. They're great and work really well with 15mm figures. |
Caliban | 21 Jun 2015 1:47 p.m. PST |
Yes, I once ran "Asterix and the Golden Sickle" as an RPG scenario for Fantasy Games' Unlimited Bushido rules. Assuming that Asterix counts as children's books, that is! One of the players idly picked up the book during the usual post-game chat, and the dawning look of realisation was hilarious… Not exactly a historical reference, but still a gaming use. I might do something like that again. |
Zargon | 21 Jun 2015 1:56 p.m. PST |
LOL Bashytubits, I've got to have a unit of those to face a charge of Knights :D Cheers |
jpattern2 | 21 Jun 2015 3:26 p.m. PST |
Yes. Dover Books has quite a few useful picture books. |
Lee Brilleaux | 21 Jun 2015 7:09 p.m. PST |
Your local library's children's department is a fantastic resource for picture references. Any mainstream historical subject will be covered by large format books with well-researched and (usually very well executed) illustrations. In contrast the matching adult books feature black and white photos and public domain Victorian lithographs. |
Early morning writer | 22 Jun 2015 6:21 a.m. PST |
Yes, most historical museums have a section of books for kids and they often have well done artwork that can be used as a painting guide – especially for structures and civilians but sometimes even the soldiers involved. Also, as that squinty old Mex points out, the local library can also be useful. |
Frothers Did It And Ran Away | 22 Jun 2015 7:29 a.m. PST |
Childrens books can be an awesome resource – Dorling Kindersley did a series of historical books illustrated by Peter Dennis which are great. |
sumerandakkad | 22 Jun 2015 8:48 a.m. PST |
I have been reading 'The Story of Burnt Njal'. It seems a lively affair in Iceland, with suggestions for feuds when playing Saga. |
Great War Ace | 22 Jun 2015 9:38 a.m. PST |
Why would "kids books" be inferior resources in the first place? I'm not aware that the research that goes into the best of them is any less reliable than the research that goes more in depth (adult level). Being geared for kids the pictures get emphasis, which is exactly what we want and need. Proving that we're still kids of all ages…. |
Great War Ace | 22 Jun 2015 9:39 a.m. PST |
Btw, Njal was just trying to stay warm, and his neighbors were helping out. ;) |
Kropotkin303 | 22 Jun 2015 1:47 p.m. PST |
I got into Usborne books about 1977.The firs time I played wargames with rules.
Pretty spectacular into to gaming. |
Tiberius | 08 Jul 2015 4:42 a.m. PST |
I have the knight book to from 1977 great book and games |
Ottoathome | 09 Jul 2015 10:30 a.m. PST |
Only the most sophisticated and innovative rules makers use children's books. Gotten more solid input from Grimm, Anderson, and M.Goose than anything out of Will & Ariel and Delbruck. |