"Looking for US 28th Infantry Division decals " Topic
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Dragonteethsoldier14 | 18 Jun 2015 7:20 p.m. PST |
I am looking for these decals to be usable for 15mm tanks. I want build a unit from my home state. |
Winston Smith | 18 Jun 2015 8:18 p.m. PST |
Pennsylvania? Where? Btw I don't think tanks would carry infantry division markings. |
Dragonteethsoldier14 | 19 Jun 2015 4:03 a.m. PST |
Pittsburgh is my hometown. My father's national guard and there are a few organic tank units in the 28th. I was also thinking half tracks. |
Jeff Ewing | 19 Jun 2015 4:32 a.m. PST |
A company of light tanks in the recon squadron, plus the appealing M8 HMCs. If I were going to pick an easy-to-paint divisional insignia, I think the 28th's red keystone would be near the top of my list. However, Company B does the 28th ID shoulder patches for 28mm figures. These might suit for 15mm AFVs: link |
PentexRX8 | 19 Jun 2015 9:14 a.m. PST |
I also built a Bloody Bucket company in 15mm for FOW. They are pretty easy to paint at that scale. Just a Square with another "not-so-square-square" on top. Also they were an infantry division at the time, so I don't think the tanks themselves would have any Keystones on them. They would have been attached from armored divisions, like the Second – Hell on Wheeles (IIRC). What part of Pittsburgh? I am in the North Hills myself. |
Dragonteethsoldier14 | 19 Jun 2015 9:23 a.m. PST |
I am living in Sarver these days. |
Airborne Engineer | 20 Jun 2015 5:25 a.m. PST |
US WWII Infantry Divisions were pretty simple in the standard organization. Three infantry regiments, three artillery battalions, and an engineer battalion. The original goal was to assign Tank Destroyer battalions to them if they needed protection against panzers. But they weren't as successful as hoped. So when a division as going into action they would be assigned tank battalions and tank destroyer battalions as needed and if they were available. In theory division would get one of each if they were available. During the Bulge the 707th Tank Battalion was attached to the division. I believe they were on loan from the 5th Armored Division. link |
Come In Nighthawk | 20 Jun 2015 6:32 a.m. PST |
If you were doing the Inter-war period 28th Tank Co. (Light), then maybe, but not assuredly, as they usually only lettered the unit on the "Mae West" turrets, and I've seen fotoz where the DUI was painted on, but not the division patch. In WW2, the infantry usually got a GHQ separate tank battalion, not a battalion from an armored division. You can easily tell because with rare exception, the armored division battalions had two-digit numbers, like 32nd Tank Battalion, while the GHQs came from the 700- and 800- series. Your 707th in the example cited was a GHQ battalion, and one of the exceptions was the 70th, which supported 4th ID in Normandy as I recall. Shelby Stanton's volume on US Army OB in WW2 can help you out with this. As to the tanks for your project. They would have little more stenciled on than the US star in a few places, and then on the front glacis and back fenders, the number of the Army they were assigned to (done as 1A or 3A), followed by the battalion's number, on one side, and the company letter, and the tank's number on the other. E.G., 1A-707^ and B15. Sorry, I'm on my mobile, that ^ is all this thing has for a triangle, the symbol used for all armor. Hope that helps! |
Airborne Engineer | 20 Jun 2015 7:00 a.m. PST |
I stand corrected on the part about the 5th AD. The Battalion had been part of the 5th AD when it formed. They restructured the division and companies from two regiments were formed to create the 707th as an independent Tank Battalion. It was attached to the 28th for Huertgen Forrest and Battle of the Bulge. link |
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