| Tango01 | 15 Jun 2015 12:41 p.m. PST |
"Long before he introduced Napoleon to his Waterloo (200 years ago on June 18th), the idle young duke-to-be could be found carousing the hot spots of his native Dublin. Let's take the tour. Ah, Dublin: coddle; Old Mr Brennan; Molly Malone; Bang Bang; field marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. We don't tend to think of the first Duke of Wellington as a Dubliner, although he was born here, lived here and inspired the Wellington boot, which is, let's face it, part of our national costume. On the other hand, he also supposedly said of his Irishness that "being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse"…"
Full article here
link Amicalement
Armand |
| duncanh | 15 Jun 2015 1:22 p.m. PST |
Well, here is something for you to consider Tango. Have you ever read a book? I hope you enjoyed it and someday you'll read another. Maybe you'll read it again. |
| Supercilius Maximus | 15 Jun 2015 1:27 p.m. PST |
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Duke ever said that. What we do know for sure, is that the nationalist politician Daniel O'Connell did say it about him. Twice in fact – once in a public meeting in the west of Ireland, and once whilst giving evidence in a court case (nothing to do with the Duke). What we also know, is that the Duke fought a duel over the issue of Catholic Emancipation, went on record (in Hansard) stating that it was a debt of honour owed to the Catholic population of Ireland for their support during the Napoleonic Wars, and turned down the presidency of the Orange Order in Ireland because it discriminated against the majority of the population. |
| Tango01 | 15 Jun 2015 3:13 p.m. PST |
Well… I think so my friend… I have more than 700 at home!. (smile)… and other 400 in my country home. Amicalement
Armand |
| duncanh | 16 Jun 2015 10:52 a.m. PST |
Fair enough Tango01, I take it however your library doesn't include a biography of the Iron Duke. Try reading one, I suggest Elizabeth Longford, it does have many hard and long words. It's in two volumes but well worth the read if you want to try to understand what you post. I could ask how many of your books have been coloured in but that would be a cheap shot and put me in the dawghouse. So I won't say it and withdraw that remark. |
| Supercilius Maximus | 16 Jun 2015 11:08 a.m. PST |
Tango – the new(ish) biography of Wellington by Rory Muir (the first of two volumes, I believe) is supposed to be very good. |
| 138SquadronRAF | 16 Jun 2015 12:52 p.m. PST |
We don't tend to think of the first Duke of Wellington as a Dubliner If a gentleman happens to be born in a stable, it does not follow that he should be called a horse. |
| duncanh | 16 Jun 2015 1:14 p.m. PST |
I'll try to get a copy of thst SM. Haven't read it but as you have given it a thumbs up. 138RAF, well that would make Jesus Christ a horse. I think that was what Wellington intended to imply. However he was far too much of a gentleman to call Tango01 a horses arse. |
| Tango01 | 16 Jun 2015 11:33 p.m. PST |
Why so agressive?. I only post the article… I don't write it!. Of course I have several books about the Duque who I respect. Your path is grong my friend. Amicalement
Armand |
| 138SquadronRAF | 17 Jun 2015 4:50 p.m. PST |
No offense was intended my dear cousin. The quote was attributed to the Duke. Actually it was Picton who loathed the Irish. |
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