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Hamilton05 Jun 2015 8:23 a.m. PST

An interesting video.

YouTube link

JSchutt05 Jun 2015 9:08 a.m. PST

Wow!

Everyone should see this to put life in perspective. Though the exact numbers could be debated the impact is clear. How lucky we are…though much work remains to be done.

imdone05 Jun 2015 10:21 a.m. PST

Was a little turned off by the comment to start the piece of "The War started in 1939 but the US was not willing to join the war until Pearl Harbor." Seems to take for granted that the US should have.

Also, it seemed a little glib to keep saying "20 mil" instead of million when talking about human beings dying.

Also was not a fan of "Worst Atrocities on Record" in describing wars throughout history.

Finally, overly simplistic to say only rich countries have fought "poor" countries since WWII with the clear intention of making it seem predatory instead of the cold war era proxy wars they were (US v USSR).

All in all not a fan of this "approach" to history.

Sundance05 Jun 2015 12:05 p.m. PST

Actually, anyone who really knows the war knows that the US was involved prior to Pearl, even if war had not been declared yet. The first American war deaths took place prior to Pearl, that's for sure.

Silurian05 Jun 2015 1:01 p.m. PST

Very impactful indeed.
The graphics certainly put things into perspective, whether or not you agree with certain turns of phrase. And obviously not every detail can be addressed in such a broad view.

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP05 Jun 2015 2:31 p.m. PST

Honestly, the end depressed me a bit. The conclusion they put forth seems to have been that 'the long peace' will just keep stretching out and everything will be great.

However, when you look at the sweep of history they laid out, I couldn't escape the feeling that a cork is in place stopping the flow, and when it pops, it's going to unleash a flood.

Navy Fower Wun Seven05 Jun 2015 3:59 p.m. PST

Very interesting, and, on the whole, balanced. I think just about every nationality has something to wince about in that, but the overall message and conclusion is very optimistic.

I'm optimistic because my experience in my second career since leaving the Service has been in international higher education – mainly to do with Chinese studying at Australian unis. Why is this relevant? Well, currently the Party regime is attempting to whip up Chinese nationalist fervour to back up their antics in the South China sea. And it seems to not be reaching quite the spontaneous levels the Party had expected….And knowing the healthy scepticism and intellectual enquiry of those Chinese kids we send back home, I'm hardly surprised!

D A THB05 Jun 2015 4:00 p.m. PST

Very interesting Video, but does the Falklands Conflict not count as rich Nations fighting each other?

Navy Fower Wun Seven05 Jun 2015 4:03 p.m. PST

Britain wasn't yet rich in the early 1980's, Maggie's reforms were still working their way through, we were still in hock to the IMF.

Retiarius905 Jun 2015 4:23 p.m. PST

imagine what that chart would look like after nuclear war

Martin Rapier06 Jun 2015 5:58 a.m. PST

"but does the Falklands Conflict not count as rich Nations fighting each other?"

Although Mrs T was hell bent on destroying the British Economy in 1982 in the vain quest of monetarist dogma, the UK was still quite a lot wealthier than Argentina.

We got really rich later in the 80s on the back of a good old fashioned asset boom fuelled by cheap credit.

tuscaloosa07 Jun 2015 7:29 p.m. PST

Agree with zoltar.

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