4th Cuirassier | 26 May 2015 2:45 a.m. PST |
So this is a common facing colour among French cavalry units, but what is the consensus as to what colour it actually was? Was it simply pale orange – aurore being a French noun meaning dawn – or did it have a touch of pink in it, to make it a sort of salmony colour? Or was it a goldeny orange instead? I am painting the 21st Chasseurs a Cheval – or at least I will be if I can get comfortable with what sort of shade this should be… |
MajorB | 26 May 2015 2:48 a.m. PST |
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SJDonovan | 26 May 2015 2:56 a.m. PST |
I went for a slightly salmon colour and used German Orange from Vallejo. This has a slightly pinkish hue, to my eyes at least. Why it is called German Orange I have no idea.
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4th Cuirassier | 26 May 2015 3:18 a.m. PST |
I'm wondering if a flesh tone might be best? |
SJDonovan | 26 May 2015 3:38 a.m. PST |
I think it depends a lot on the colour you are putting it next to and the size of the figure you are painting. I think a flesh tone could look a bit too pale and washed out (unless you've got a flesh tone that matches a cheap spray tan). |
huevans011 | 26 May 2015 4:28 a.m. PST |
Goldeny orange. Add a touch of yellow to orange for aurore. Add a touch of mid brown to orange for capucine. |
GildasFacit | 26 May 2015 4:31 a.m. PST |
I doubt anybody could have grounds for criticism if it was anywhere between a light golden yellow and a light, pinkish orange. Dawn over the Med and dawn over the bay of Biscay wouldn't be the same colour, would they !!! |
Saber6 | 26 May 2015 9:00 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 26 May 2015 9:13 a.m. PST |
SJDonovan's for me……..that German Orange from Vallejo is what I always imagine was the intention. I use straight from the bottle As Gildas Facit says, it was to be the colour of the dawn sky…an orange but with a pink tinge. Museum pieces tend to be faded to a tan/orange, but if you look in the creases and seams…….. Forgive the crude lacing (my earliest work) but never mind the quality see the shade!
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dBerczerk | 26 May 2015 9:48 a.m. PST |
Humbrol made a beautiful aurore in enamel, when they were marketed in the little tins with the pry-off lids. Sadly, mine has long ago dried up. |
SJDonovan | 26 May 2015 9:55 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 26 May 2015 12:56 p.m. PST |
Mine has not and I'll be honest…nostalgia is not what it used to to be, I know…..but it is too orange……and it takes too long to dry. I love acrylics , me……. Humbrol French Artillery Green is still good. There is almost nothing left in my tin. Prussian Dragoon and Rifle Green are awful……………grossly overdone |
21eRegt | 26 May 2015 1:45 p.m. PST |
Pretty much a straight orange IMHO. Our reenactment group that portrays the troisieme compagnie use that. |
Camcleod | 26 May 2015 6:25 p.m. PST |
Try this colour chart from Lucien Rousselot. About half-way down: link |
Supercilius Maximus | 29 May 2015 8:03 a.m. PST |
Was it simply pale orange – aurore being a French noun meaning dawn – or did it have a touch of pink in it, to make it a sort of salmony colour? Or was it a goldeny orange instead? Yes. Next……? |
matthewgreen | 29 May 2015 10:16 a.m. PST |
If the Rousselot colour chart is right it is actually a darker orange than "orange". Straight orange would do, with "orange" being the paler version and capucine being a bit darker. Not that there was any precision around this historically given the technologies and exigencies of the time. |
deadhead | 29 May 2015 12:21 p.m. PST |
Orange with salmon pink on the day that the kit was issued. German Orange from Vallejo. Couple of months of UV light and campaigning, plus dodgy consistency of chemicals in those days…take your pick. All modelling is a compromise, we know that. Is it parade, is it a nice day or bucketing down, is is it after a year in Spain or late 1812, is it a 21st Century Paris museum? (Look into the seams BTW). Think what UV does to any colour within weeks in a shop window. Look at old model boxes in your local model shop and see how some pigments do worse than others. This from C a Cheval de La G Imperiale, in La M de l'Armee, Paris. Rubbish photo but colour is right!
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