"Swords" Topic
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| Fleming | 23 May 2015 8:50 a.m. PST |
Hello everyone! Can anyone explain the difference between Haudegen, Walloon sword, Pappenheimer and Dutch-Swedish sword? They are so similar |
| Norman D Landings | 23 May 2015 3:51 p.m. PST |
Haudegen: general term for single-handed cut-&-thrust swords of the 16th century-onwards, with 'complex' hilts and guards.
'Degen' was the contemporary term for a sword, and 'haudegen' meant 'hewing sword'. (it was also used as contemporary slang for a 'swashbuckler'.) Walloon: a particular type of Haudegen. It's distinguished by the pattern of the piercings on its guard-plates. (star-shaped holes, surounded by smaller round holes) and by the absence of side-bars on the guard.
These swords were mostly German-made, for Dutch military service. The French, who fought against the Dutch in the 1670's, adopted the design and referred to it as the 'Epee Wallone'. Dutch-Swedish: Simply means any Haudegen-type swords purchased from Holland by the Swedish army. Pappenheimer: Cavalry 'sword-rapier'. (a modern term used to distinguish those rapiers which have a cutting edge from those which do not. It would have a longer, slimmer blade than the Haudegen types.
Pappenheim refined the design of the guard, angling the side-rings back over the hand (unlike the flat or almost-flat side-plates of the Haudegen types) and filling them with pierced plates (most rapier designs prior to this had open side-rings). I know… I should get out more. Hope that helps! |
dragon6  | 23 May 2015 9:01 p.m. PST |
I was impressed!  |
| Supercilius Maximus | 25 May 2015 4:09 a.m. PST |
There's a very good explanation about the design and use of cavalry swords in the thread on Swedish cavalry currently under way on this very board:- TMP link [scroll down to the post by Daniel S on 10th May] |
| Norman D Landings | 25 May 2015 5:46 a.m. PST |
Cheers for that link, SM: very informative thread! |
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