"Never tell me the odds" Topic
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Korvessa | 11 May 2015 3:29 p.m. PST |
Kind of a slow day at work, so I thought I would check out the odds on how W&C charge ranges work vs WFB If you're not familiar, in W&C cav roll 3 dice but discards the lowest; infantry does the same but discards the highest. In WFB, you just roll two dice. I am not a good enough math guy to do it the easy way, so I had to do my experimenting the long way by hand. This was based on charges distance needed, rather than rolling any particular number. For example: if you need to roll a "4" to reach enemy, you will be successful on a four or higher (so a 12 is as good as a 4); whereas if you need a 10, only a 10-11-12 will do, etc. Anyway, here is what I found (assuming I didn't make math errors – which I do all the time): 3D6 + discard the lowest produces identical odd with just using 2D6 3D6 + discard the highest produces very different odds The far left column is the number needed – the others are the chances of rolling that Roll Needed cavalry Infantry 3D6 2D6 3D6 2D6 +2 100% 100% 100% 100% +3 0.97% 0.97% 0.95% 0.97% +4 0.92% 0.92% 0.84% 0.92% +5 0.83% 0.83% 0.69% 0.83% +6 0.72% 0.72% 0.51% 0.72% +7 0.58% 0.58% 0.35% 0.58% +8 0.42% 0.42% 0.19% 0.42% +9 0.28% 0.28% 0.11% 0.28% +10 0.17% 0.17% 0.05% 0.17% +11 0.06% 0.08% 0.02% 0.08% +12 0.03% 0.03% 0.00% 0.03% |
sneakgun | 11 May 2015 3:45 p.m. PST |
I quit playing 40K because all the players would quote their dice odds…..it made me crazy. |
Korvessa | 11 May 2015 3:52 p.m. PST |
I am really not that much in to playing the odds – and certainly won't memorize this – just started out as curiosity |
Katzbalger | 11 May 2015 5:58 p.m. PST |
Uhm, I don't think that 3d6 drop lowest gets you the same odds as 2d6. There's something wrong with your math on that one. Rob |
JonFreitag | 11 May 2015 7:24 p.m. PST |
"Odds" are not the same as probability of success. |
John the OFM | 11 May 2015 8:21 p.m. PST |
I trust my Destiny. I do not trust dice. |
T Corret | 11 May 2015 8:25 p.m. PST |
When I GM'ed at Havoc decades ago, kids, especially, would ask me, "What do I need to roll?" "The dice,…Now!" Not original, but apt. |
LesCM19 | 12 May 2015 3:32 a.m. PST |
Dice probability nuts will like this: link Scroll down to download an .exe |
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