"Clone troopers not any better then stromtroopers" Topic

So watching Clone wars, a very decent series.

But In one episode in first season they are on ice planet, getting into a scrape with some natives.

again, clone troper armor is just as bad as strom trooper armor at stopping spears, spears thrown from like 60 meters away.

Blasters still makes the brown bess look like a Barret .50 sniper rifles.

So while they have ships that can travle FLS, space weapons and ships the size of small planets.

Their armor and weapons on the ground makes the Zulu look like Cylons.

Interesting question. If using a Barret like you would a Bess, which one is better?
Without actually trying it, I assume it'd be nothing but luck if you got within 100' of the target with the Barret. Even if that target was the ground. Or the sky. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to hit air.

Check this out… this is how to fire a barret:

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Impressive enough that he hit white target. My understanding, from what he was saying, was that he DIDN'T hit the balloon. It was the shockwave generated in the steel target that caused the balloon to burst.

But that does not take away from his performance.

But I still say that the Clone Troopers shoot better than the Stormtroopers.

Probably a bit of spalling or fragments from the round that burst the balloon. Heck of a shot.

My daughter reluctantly agrees with you. When I read the topic that stopped her Wii Clone wars game in its tracks.

Very precise when shooting unarmed Jawas though

Offscreen! Mabye they have stage fright? They know the camera is on them, so they jerk and miss?

My money's on Red Shirts..

The Stormtrooper Effect: the more of bad guys there is the worse their aim becomes.

So when Obi-wan point out to Luke, "Look at those blast points, only Imperials are so precise."
What Obi-wan meant was there could only have been 2 or 3 Stormtroopers that razed that sandcrawler and killed all those Jawas.

Clone troopers are clones of Boba Fett, the Derek Zoolander of Bounty Hunters.

Compared to real life, they aren't doing that bad :-)

"The number of rounds per kill tripled from WWII levels to a staggering 50,000 rounds for each kill" (about Vietnam)

That 50,000 rounds per kill could also be accounted for by the design of the 5.56mm or .223 ammo round, it was designed to maim more that kill. The hope was to injury an enemy soldier which would then occupy a few other soldiers time to move the wounded out of the way. Unfortunately it seemed the Vietcong didn't give a rat's back end about their wounded.

But it mostly came down to the changing tactics of warfare, no body lined up in easy rows to shoot at after the American war between the states. And even after that in WWI the idea of charging across an open stretch of land became a fools task.

So let's look at it this way. What warfare tactic do the clones use as compared to the Stormtroopers?
Star Wars isn't much more than WWII in space. So does that make the Clone Wars WWI?

All I know, from being exposed to all seasons of the "Clone Wars", is that they have more battle stuff going on than SW. Still enough of the SW effect to make me not like it but at least they have battles and take losses of named characters. They do a lot of spray & pray it seems though, especially Heavy.

The 50 000 is easly acounted for by giving regular troops full auto weapons, American weapons in WW2 was semi auto except for BAR, M1919 and Thompson/grease gun.

Vast majority used Garands and some Carbines. They also were better trained and had fire disipline.

During Vietnam when ever engaged they would hit the foliage and fire thousands of rounds into the bushes while waiting for air/artillery support.

That was one of the main reasons for the M16A2, That only has semi and burst fire.

The draft and full auto means lots of spray and pray.

But clone tropers/stormtroopers mostly fire semi auto stuff.

And given the armor dosn't stop anything. I think a nice M60 and a few thousand rounds could singlehandedly take out a battalion of clones.

Its all Rebel propaganda. The winner writes history and makes the movies. Its all lies I tell you. Clones and storm troopers are great shots.

I'm pretty sure the 50,000 round star includes ammo expended in training and what not. It really has little to do with combat ammo usage rates.