Poi000 | 07 May 2015 7:10 a.m. PST |
I have some Perry metals, but none of their plastics. How do their AWI continentals compare to Wargames Factory stuff? |
Old Contemptibles | 07 May 2015 7:37 a.m. PST |
I like them both and use them interchangeably. There are certain figures the Perry makes that no one else is making. I think the ranges compliment each other. It seems to me that the Perry's completed the Foundry's range. I am assuming you mean Wargames Foundry and not Wargames Factory. |
Mark RedLinePS | 07 May 2015 7:42 a.m. PST |
I think he does mean Wargames Factory as they make AWI plastics as do Perry's. |
Pan Marek | 07 May 2015 7:50 a.m. PST |
Both plastic lines are good, but the Perry's are better. In particular, the detail in the Perry's is easier to paint, as its a bit "higher". Both sets have multiple headgear. Perry's have short coats, and a couple figs in hunting shirts. The WF have long coats. |
NappyBuff | 07 May 2015 7:51 a.m. PST |
To be honest, both are good plastic miniatures. It is hard to pick one over the other. |
Thomas O | 07 May 2015 8:03 a.m. PST |
I have both and both are good, though I tend to like the Perry ones better, but if you are looking for figures that are in firing poses the Wargames Factory are the way to go. If you get the Wargames Factory figures make sure you look at the diagram of the sprues and what bodies certain arms can work with. Some of the bodies only go together with their matching arms. |
jambo1 | 07 May 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Both are good, I have used the two companies and find them a good match for each other. Push to shove I would just go for Perry, ever so slightly. |
Heisler | 07 May 2015 10:13 a.m. PST |
You can take a look at this post on my blog for a detailed build example. link |
MH Dee | 07 May 2015 10:42 a.m. PST |
I think the Perry ones are far superior to the Wargames Factory ones. I just think the WF ones look awkward, and too obviously CAD. They have a firing line I suppose. I think their shoulders look bizarre too, and I'm not fussy on the lack of integral base. |
Knob | 07 May 2015 11:45 a.m. PST |
Perry vs WF plastic comparison pics. link |
Gnu2000 | 07 May 2015 12:01 p.m. PST |
I prefer Perry. If I want a firing line then I'll buy metal. |
GiloUK | 07 May 2015 12:12 p.m. PST |
I've (almost) painted 3 battalions of Perry Continental infantry now and I like them a lot. Very easy to paint, with good detail and some riflemen thrown in too. The only downside is that sometimes the arms look a bit stiff and you have to be careful how you glue them on – I have a sergeant on the painting desk now whose epaulette just sort of ends at an unrealistic angle; although once painted and with the figure in line I'm sure no one would notice. Giles |
GROSSMAN | 07 May 2015 2:46 p.m. PST |
Also take a look at the 2nd edition Old Glorys, they look comparable to Perrys and are very cheap, I actually have some extras I could sell you if you like them. markcramer74atyahoo.com |
janner | 13 May 2015 11:02 p.m. PST |
Since WGF lifted their game so remarkably, they and Perry go together very well |
dave001776 | 14 May 2015 4:31 a.m. PST |
apart from THOSE shoulders !! |
Supercilius Maximus | 15 May 2015 2:40 a.m. PST |
The shoulders are a bit "Mr Universe", but I suspect that once painted (especially in dark blue) and en masse, this doesn't show up particularly. The folds on the breeches are over-done, but again, not so noticeable once painted. The biggest difficulty with the WGF figures is the over-size detail in some areas – eg the hammer on the musket is about six inches wide, scaled up (nothing a little trimming won't sort out, but a bit of a chore and a danger of accidentally taking off the whole hammer if you're as clumsy as I am). The WGF figures also seem to have older styles of cocked hat (much larger and more pointed at the front than the 1770s version). This is fine for the militia, who would have worn their own hats, but those issued to Continentals would have been up-to-date and slightly flatter at the front when fully cocked. Both manufacturers have a slight problem with fitting the arms, in that the arm combinations are not "universal". The WGF limitations have been mentioned, but you do also need to be careful with the Perry figures, particularly to avoid "tick-tocking" (having the same arm and leg moving forward at the same time). Here are two threads that illustrate someone mixing-and-matching the two manufacturers. Using both types of figure appears to be workable; however, making a figure from parts from both types is more problematic – the options are limited, but those that do work seem to work quite well:- link link |
Bill N | 17 May 2015 9:45 a.m. PST |
To me the choice is less about quality and compatibility, but rather is about poses, box composition and uniforms. There are a few walking poses in the WGF sets that might mix with the Perry's and command figures could be mixed, but otherwise I would use them separately. |
Poi000 | 17 May 2015 11:19 a.m. PST |
I picked up the WGF militia to start me off. Really nice sharp scuplts. |
Poi000 | 20 May 2015 3:27 a.m. PST |
Now I have the problem of deciding how to build them. Anyone here play Muskets and Tomahawks? That's our group's chosen rule set for this. With 15 rifles, and 15 hunting shirts, but 30 muskets, do I go with 15 riflemen, or is that cheesy and ahistoric? I assume that both militia and minutemen would also have worn the fringed hunting shirt as well as riflemen, and similarly, some riflemen would have gone with the alternate outfit from the kit? |
Supercilius Maximus | 20 May 2015 6:38 a.m. PST |
Depends where your Militia/Minutemen came from – unless they were from extreme frontier communities, they would generally have worn normal civilian clothing. Hunting shirts were items that were usually issued to Continentals as part of their uniform. |
Clays Russians | 22 May 2015 12:40 p.m. PST |
Off topic…… Putting together WGF WW2 Russians IS A BLOODY NIGHTMARE.. I had an E tool glued to my thumb nail! I was like "Christ" what the -----. Perry naps just came together like cake and icing, I imagine the revywar would be same same….. That's army talk….. |
MajorTom | 31 May 2015 9:50 p.m. PST |
I prefer my Perry's, WGF stuff is a bit too tall for the table to me, they do have the benefit of 10 light troops, however I am unlikely to buy them again because of their height and dress. WGF is in the garoted trousers, making them unsuitable for the earlier part of the war. Perry troops however lend themselves to several different units and are just gorgeous to look at. I can also speak to the Old Glory second edition stuff, I don't have any AWI from that range, but I do have a handful of Napoleonic Prussians that paint up beautifully. |
Poi000 | 02 Jun 2015 7:15 a.m. PST |
Plumped for 2 officers, 8 Militia (firing line), 2x6 Minutemen and 8 Minutemen with rifles. 198 points.
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