scrivs | 26 Apr 2015 12:06 a.m. PST |
Steve Jones put on an excellent game at Salute yesterday and deservedly won the Best Painted award.
I was honoured to be a part of it.
Loads more pictures and a report of the action on Scrivsland link |
BigRedBat | 26 Apr 2015 2:01 a.m. PST |
Was a great looking game and certainly deserved a prize! Lovely painting on the troops. |
WarWizard | 26 Apr 2015 4:34 a.m. PST |
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79thPA | 26 Apr 2015 5:58 a.m. PST |
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jurgenation | 26 Apr 2015 8:45 a.m. PST |
Great job! love the matching t-shirts! |
Littlearmies | 26 Apr 2015 1:48 p.m. PST |
It was a super game – very inspiring stuff. It completely deserved the award. |
clifblkskull | 26 Apr 2015 2:35 p.m. PST |
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oldnorthstate | 26 Apr 2015 6:19 p.m. PST |
Let's see, the Hoskins house should be adjacent to the road, not off to the right and God only knows what that raging creek is doing behind the British lines. Other than the first line there were no other fence lines in the woods, the area around the Guilford Court House wasn't bounded by a white picket fence and wasn't an American encampment with tents. They got the trees right, except that the time of year was late winter/early spring, so no foliage, but other than that… |
Old Contemptibles | 26 Apr 2015 11:21 p.m. PST |
Yeah I wondered where that creek came from. I have done this scenario several times and none of my research showed a creek. Not to mention the tents. |
Gnu2000 | 27 Apr 2015 6:13 a.m. PST |
Yep, hands up. Little Horsepen Creek should be some way back but was brought up because it looks pretty and I would otherwise have had to make three extra "plain" terrain boards. It had no effect on the game. As to it "raging", it is what it is; a model waterway. Sometimes it is a gentle brook other times a significant obstacle. Next time I sculpt some boards I guess I'll have to do something smaller and shallower. Hoskin's house was moved slightly. Then again it also had a footprint WAY larger than whatever historical prototype actually stood there. I did think about leaving it out entirely but in the end it seemed more fitting to include something farm-ish. The camp was also added as a bit of eye candy and filled out a corner of the board where little action was likely to occur. I doubt the ordinary was in the right place let alone surrounded by picket fence and the pond is a complete fantasy. Again, I'm limited by my terrain collection and don't mind because the effect was rather attractive. I usually try to stick a camp on somewhere but did stop myself giving the Crown more than a couple of wagons. The fences have little effect on the game and were used to mark the extent of the fields as there would not have been much in the way of crops visible in mid-March. I suppose I could have made more ploughed field sections but it really didn't seem worth it for one game. …and trees. Yes. Foliage would have been a bit lacking however life really is a bit short and storage space somewhat lacking to justify enough bare trees for a 6x10 table. I stand in awe of those with such resources and commitment. Overall, it IS JUST A GAME and I feel this was in keeping with the historical battle, represented the tactical situation and the armies fairly and even resulted in a win for the chaps in blue and brown. Plenty of folks were able to identify the battle without prompting so I don't think I was too far of the mark. I also always make a deliberate point of staging games using regular terrain and troops that I can take to a club and play with. I don't use one off especially created pieces but prefer to show what can be done with quite "generic" and commercially available items. The Fort George game at Salute was lovely but beyond the means of the majority of UK war gamers whereas I think most people could have a go at replicating my kind of set up if they should want to. Happy gaming! |
Der Alte Fritz | 27 Apr 2015 8:13 a.m. PST |
Gnu2000 and Scrivs, you did well and your game deserves the applause that it has been getting across multiple internet forums. I wouldn't give a second thought to the nitpicking comments. |
Marc the plastics fan | 27 Apr 2015 9:32 a.m. PST |
+1 – looks good. Ignore the dubious comments above and hope you come again next year. Those of us who go to salute appreciate thefgorts made by people like you, not the naysayers |
42flanker | 27 Apr 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
What they said. There's a time and a place…. |
scrivs | 27 Apr 2015 11:00 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the support chaps, we don't mind a few comments from the armchair experts adds a little to the fun. We ought to start a little sweepstake before each of the games we present. Pick the point of most critique and there may be a small prize or certificate for the winner. |
nevinsrip | 27 Apr 2015 2:30 p.m. PST |
Great job. Ignore the attempt to downplay what a wonder feeling the game had. Oldnorthstate…lets see your effort.
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coolyork | 27 Apr 2015 6:33 p.m. PST |
Have reenacted this battle a number of time in full scale and I must say you definatly got the flavor and most of the details down quite well . Job well done !, Mark ( Whites Company of Militia |
Supercilius Maximus | 27 Apr 2015 11:13 p.m. PST |
I was lucky enough to see this game "in the flesh" on Saturday, and it was awesome – easily the best depiction of GCH I've ever seen. Not only that, but the players were happy to take the time to talk to anyone who stopped by, and there were paper hand-outs for those who wanted more detail on the battle. Space for games at shows is always limited, and dictates what is possible – both for the overall set-up, and what small liberties you have to take to shoehorn important features into a scaled-down battlefield that has to sit comfortably within a regular shape. It was a 9.9/10 for me; I think the only way you could improve on it would be to double the figures in each unit and play it on two tables that size divided by the road. Oh, and host the game in a two-floor, oak-panelled library – like Professor Higgins' gaffe in "My Fair Lady", spiral staircase in the corner, that sort of thing – filled with every AWI book ever written. That'd pretty much do it. Over to you, Steve…… The Penobscot game used overwhelmingly F&IW British rather than genuine AWI figures, but that in no way diminished what was also a very, very impressive set-up. Short of winning the lottery, the vast majority of us have to make the best of the kit we can afford, and it was obvious that a lot of thought and planning went into both displays. |
Old Contemptibles | 28 Apr 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Sorry, I did not realize I was nitpicking. There is a lot of what you could considering nitpicking that goes on here, but it never gets called out. Without a doubt it is a great looking set up. No matter the battle. I was just wondering/asking about the set up of this scenario. Because if it is correct then I have been doing this battle incorrectly. Having a creek where there wasn't one is a little more than just a nit to pick. I don't care what colors are the officers buttons are or the type of jackets. I just wanted to know why there was a creek in that spot and why the tents. Buttons not a big deal. A creek? Now that is a big deal. I got my answer, which boils down to I did it because I could. Done that before myself but usually in hypothetical scenarios. Still it is a great looking game. |
TWD6968 | 28 Apr 2015 11:31 a.m. PST |
Nitpicker nitpicks at definition of nitpicking. Actually Rallynow I don't think you were nitpicking. I think you were being rude.
Imagine if you had been in attendance. Would you have stood at the end of the table and declaimed in a loud voice all the errors you could see on the table. "What's this raging torrent? Those trees should be autumnal? Fences, what fences?!" etc. I very much doubt it. Had you had any social skills then I imagine you'd have approached one of us and politely sought clarification "Excuse me, about that stream…" and being nice chaps we'd have explained as Steve has done above. The anonymity of the internet allows people to behave as they would never do in real life. So you came barging into a thread celebrating one persons enjoyment of the hobby to rudely point out things that you didn't like about it. Had your post above been more along the lines of: Great looking table guys, but I'm wondering why you chose to have a stream on one end of the table, and if you could explain why you've positioned the camp as you did, maybe Steve could have had a chance to explain nicely the choices he made and everyone else wouldn't be on this thread thinking – crikey that chap's a rude and ignorant troll. You should maybe consider the impact of the way in which you present your thoughts, rather than simply the content of them. Tom |
Darren Smith | 28 Apr 2015 2:30 p.m. PST |
Superb game guys, worth all the effort and congratulations on ANOTHER prize Steve :) |
Eclaireur | 28 Apr 2015 2:42 p.m. PST |
Lovely game, with really first rate figures, and certainly one of the best I saw at the show. Having walked the ground, I wouldn't worry too much about tree foliage at that season, etc. I will gloss over your departing the True Path rules-wise in favour of a house variant… ;-)) |
Gnu2000 | 29 Apr 2015 1:56 p.m. PST |
Thanks all! Eclaireur, you know the hunt for the one true rule set is one that will never truly end!… :-))) |