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Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2015 11:01 a.m. PST

What artillery did the Hungarian Army use in WWII. Particularly late war? Especially towed artillery?
Was it all horse drawn or was some pulled by trucks or tractors?
Did they use the German 15cm sFH18 or the 10cm sK18 at all?

Thanks.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2015 11:32 a.m. PST
dwight shrute22 Apr 2015 1:50 p.m. PST

there was an excellent article on this subject in an old military modelling annual..

deephorse23 Apr 2015 10:19 a.m. PST

What artillery did the Hungarian Army use in WWII. Particularly late war? Especially towed artillery?

I can help here, but you are going to have to be more specific. Which formations of the army? What is your definition of Late War? Almost all of the artillery was towed by something.

The Hungarian Army underwent several organisational changes during the war. Because of various shortages and disasters that befell it the army's actual equipment struggled to match what it should have had on paper.

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2015 1:34 p.m. PST

Late war, 1944 or 1945.

Towed rather than self propelled guns.

Did the Hungarians use the German 15cm sFH18 or the 10cm sK18 in any formations? Towed by horse or by tractor? I have a dozen extras of these models and I am trying to decide if they should be assigned to my Hungarian Army troops or if they should form a separate German artillery battery.

I am just now building my late war Hungarian Army so any information is helpful.

Thanks.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

deephorse25 Apr 2015 5:00 a.m. PST

The organisations below must be considered as 'theoretical'.

The Hungarian army lost almost all of its artillery and around 50% of the combined total of all Hungarian military and civilian motor transport in the Stalingrad disaster. The industrial capacity of Hungary could not replace these losses and Allied bombing of factories ensured that artillery and truck production effectively collapsed late in mid-1944.

I can see no evidence that the Germans supplied either the 15cm sFH18 or the 10cm sK18 to Hungary, though the Hungarians had purchased 10.5cm leFH18s and SdKfz 11 tows prior to the war (called the 37M Goring howitzer by the Hungarians). Whether or not any 37Ms survived Stalingrad is not recorded in the sources I have.

The Hungarian choice of heavy howitzer was their own 149mm 14/35.M or 14/39.M. Their light howitzers were 100mm 14/a.M or 14/b.M models.

The majority of these batteries were towed by six-horse teams. The shortage of motor vehicles may have meant that supposedly motorised batteries were also horse drawn too.

The artillery component of a 1944 Infantry Division was;

3 artillery battalions each of;
2 light artillery batteries of 4 horse drawn 10cm howitzers
1 heavy artillery battery of 4 horse drawn 14.9cm howitzers

and

1 motorised heavy artillery battalion of;
2 motorised artillery batteries of 4 14.9cm howitzers

For use as artillery tractors Hungary bought and produced a number of different vehicles;
SdKfz 11 – as mentioned above
Pavesi P4-100 and P4-100 28M
Breda 32
RSO – a few obtained from Germany late in the war
vehicles developed from agricultural tractors such as the Hofherr KV-40 and KV-50.

Quite what still existed, and where, in 1944 is not recorded. In common with most Axis countries I think that whatever was available would be used, and who can say that what you choose to put in your army is wrong?

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2015 11:26 p.m. PST

Thank you deephorse.

That's all I needed.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

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