| Old Contemptibles | 21 Apr 2015 3:58 p.m. PST |
So would that base size work in battalion scale (don't know what rules yet) rules? Would be really convenient not to have to build new armies. This is for 15mm. Standard disclosure: I am talking about where the smallest unit of maneuver is a battalion. |
| Cold Steel | 21 Apr 2015 4:07 p.m. PST |
Le Feu Sacre by Two Fat Lardies or Shako II. |
Eumelus  | 21 Apr 2015 4:32 p.m. PST |
Sure, you can for instance use six NB stands for a battalion in "Blackpowder" (a 4.5" / 11.5cm frontage), switching centimeters for inches. Works very well and allows the game to be played on a less-than-convention-game-sized table. Of course the depth of such a line is out of scale compared to the width, but that's true of all rules sets. I think that the majority of rules, of all sorts, are less dependent on base width than some gamers imagine. Work-arounds can generally be found, and provided that both sides use the same convention, I would say adapt the rules, don't rebase! |
| Pictors Studio | 21 Apr 2015 5:59 p.m. PST |
"I think that the majority of rules, of all sorts, are less dependent on base width than some gamers imagine. " Yes, this is probably even an understatement. I can't imagine that any game won't work with any system of basing if you are playing with reasonable people. |
| HistoryPhD | 21 Apr 2015 7:27 p.m. PST |
"If you are playing with reasonable people." Ah, therein lies the rub. |
 Saber6  | 21 Apr 2015 7:46 p.m. PST |
I plan on using them with Regimental Fire and Fury (if I'm doing a small action) |
| WKeyser | 21 Apr 2015 8:29 p.m. PST |
I seem to recall NB started life as a battlion level SYW game.
William |
| Maxshadow | 21 Apr 2015 10:03 p.m. PST |
My Napoleonic's are based for NB. Except I rebased my cavalry into pairs. They work for GdB and Lasalle as well as the ones mentioned above. Even Napoleon at war is close. |
| MichaelCollinsHimself | 21 Apr 2015 11:01 p.m. PST |
…errr, does he mean 1 base = 1 battalion ? |
| Dexter Ward | 22 Apr 2015 2:57 a.m. PST |
NB basing has 4 figures to a base.
That will certainly work for Shako, Lasalle and Black Powder. |
| daler240D | 22 Apr 2015 3:05 a.m. PST |
as God is my witness, I will NEVER rebase… |
| Jemima Fawr | 22 Apr 2015 5:32 a.m. PST |
It might be a good idea to explain what you mean by 'Battalion Scale'. 1 unit = a battalion? 1 base = a battalion? The entire army = a battalion? Assuming that you mean 1 unit = 1 battalion, I paint each 'brigade' unit for Napoleon's Battles as a representative battalion from that brigade. I can then also use those units as battalions in General de Brigade. the basing is absolutely not an issue. |
| Old Contemptibles | 22 Apr 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
"errr, does he mean 1 base = 1 battalion ?' No I mean a battalion would average 4 to 6 bases. Each base would be a company or so. |
| Old Contemptibles | 22 Apr 2015 3:11 p.m. PST |
If it was 1 base = 1 battalion, you would be playing a brigade level game. Where the Brigade is the smallest unit of maneuver. 
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| MichaelCollinsHimself | 23 Apr 2015 3:49 a.m. PST |
Hi Rallynow, I understand now. I was just wondering how much freedom "brigade level" games will let players have in detaching bases/units to minor or tactical objectives. My own rules will allow anything from 2-6 bases per infantry unit depending upon the strength of the battalion; whether they`re reduced in campaign or large establishments at paper strength.
And for cavalry, my rules also allow for squadrons to work as well as regiments.
You`ll find them at:
grandmanoeuvre.co.uk As for the original question, the greater depth of NB or similar bases may cause problems in manoeuvring.
You could just ignore the depth and allow for the units to touch or clip each other as they pass by?
Maybe you`ll find some difficulties in defining artillery target eligibility – I seem to recall that in Shako there was some rule about the battery being able to "see" the centre of a target? So otherwise, and in short, I`d advise ignoring anything that seems daft in a rules set. Regards, Mike. |
