| serge joe | 19 Apr 2015 11:54 a.m. PST |
Dear Sirs
question 1
Is there any evidence left of the camps?
2nd
question of the berazina bridge like the pilars? greetings serge joe |
| Marcel1809 | 19 Apr 2015 12:53 p.m. PST |
You mean the Boulogne camps? There are several monuments, the one for the ceremony of the legion d'honneur (or was it the eagles I am confused now) and there is a large poudrerière or powder magazine right on the cliffs that dated from this period |
 McLaddie  | 19 Apr 2015 2:20 p.m. PST |
Ney's 1804 instructions were written at the camps--if that is what you mean… Or are you speaking of physical evidence? |
| dibble | 20 Apr 2015 2:48 a.m. PST |
Perhaps he means 'Is there any evidence that Sergeant Bourgogne was Gay?' Paul :D |
| serge joe | 20 Apr 2015 8:33 a.m. PST |
Who said Sergeant Bourgogne was gay? And who cares? some remains of the stone walls of the little houses buildings by the soldiers O. K.
made a mistake meant boulogne sur mer greetings serge joe
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| xxxxxxx | 20 Apr 2015 9:20 a.m. PST |
Berezina crossing point (not as wide as shown in "romantic" paintings!):
View from monument area, on the east side where the abandoned French and their allies were found by the Russians, over the river:
Monument to fallen French and their Allies:
Original to-the-era church and townhall building, where the Russians tried to treat at least some of the abandoned French and their allies (mostly officers, often officers who were masons):
- Sasha |
| serge joe | 20 Apr 2015 12:07 p.m. PST |
And remains of the bridges? rotten poles? greetings serge joe |
| xxxxxxx | 20 Apr 2015 3:14 p.m. PST |
Nothing you can see.
I would not swear that the river even has the exact perfectly the same banks as it did then.
Also, no "riverine" archeology that I know of to look for archeological traces of pilings etc.
Place was souvenir hunted for a long long time, including metal detectors more recently.
But, it *does* look quite the same as you might expect from the descriptions … albeit quite smaller than one might expect based on some paintings.
It has a sad "feel" or aura or whatever you call it …. but most of Belarus has that also.
-Sasha |
| dibble | 20 Apr 2015 6:01 p.m. PST |
serge joe Who said Sergeant Bourgogne was gay? And who cares?greetings serge joe I thought you did? Sorry! It must be your spelling that made me think that you was asking if 'Bourgo' minced his way back to….where was it?….Vilna? Anyway! Many a brave soldier have been gay. I thought perhaps you were asking to flag up the gay community's contribution to military history. Paul :D |
| tuscaloosa | 20 Apr 2015 6:43 p.m. PST |
Thank you Sasha, very interesting. I think serge joe is being a bit chauvinistic to overlook the no doubt very solid contributions of gay soldiers throughout history. |
| serge joe | 21 Apr 2015 2:37 a.m. PST |
No not chauvinistic but times chance like people greetings serge joe |
| serge joe | 23 Apr 2015 7:21 a.m. PST |
A Friend of my went there with a metal detector and al found a litle French button of the 44 eme regiment would not like to en courage you out there this and was stricly forbidden greetings serge joe |
gets started with Flintloque.
