| Tango01 | 12 Apr 2015 10:36 p.m. PST |
… forces with 100 additional Leopard 2 MBTs. "Germany plans to procure more than 100 additional Leopard 2 tanks, a government spokesman said on Friday, April 10, 2015, as it seeks to ensure its troops are ready for action in response to concerns over recent Russian assertiveness. The decision to restock its military comes as NATO tries to hasten the response time of its rapid reaction force following Russia's annexation of Crimea last year and conflict in Ukraine.
"The ministry has decided to raise the upper limit for the future to 328," a defense ministry spokesman told a regular government news conference on Friday, confirming a report by German magazine Spiegel. Just before the end of the Cold War, in the 1980s, the then West Germany had more than 3,500 tanks. Now, seventy years after World War Two, it has just 225. As a result soldiers have to share tanks and heavy equipment across different units…"
Full article here
link Beautifull tank. Amicalement
Armand |
| Mako11 | 13 Apr 2015 12:00 a.m. PST |
So, assuming they build/buy the maximum number of 328, that'll be one Leopard for every 9/10ths of a mile (approximately 1,500m), along the German/Polish border, if they are spaced out equally. Just about effective gun range, assuming lots of hills, trees, shrubs, buildings, and other cover. Of course, there will be no reserve with which to counterattack, but that's a minor detail. |
| VonTed | 13 Apr 2015 4:39 a.m. PST |
I thought the 100 was coming out of mothballs? |
| Petrov | 13 Apr 2015 6:17 a.m. PST |
Yeah they are. Basically the Leopard 2 factory was holding on to them. German goverment will pay them a nominal fee and they will bring the tank back to life. |
 Legion 4  | 13 Apr 2015 8:02 a.m. PST |
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| Generalstoner49 | 13 Apr 2015 9:05 a.m. PST |
Love the Leopard 2 but looking at that front armor also nj the turret; isn't the bottom, inward sloped armor a shot trap for incoming projectiles? |
| Petrov | 13 Apr 2015 10:05 a.m. PST |
If it is going to be anything like arab israeli wars from FoW might as well get large napoleonic stands to move 10-15 tanks at a time… |
| Petrov | 13 Apr 2015 10:24 a.m. PST |
Considering modern transportation systems they probably would be there within 3-4 weeks.
From what I read both sides would be running out of Armor pretty damn fast and would have do dig into reserves. |
| Petrov | 13 Apr 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
Poles would have Leopard 2's and I am sure they would promptly shoot the russians in the back and cross the line. |
| cwlinsj | 13 Apr 2015 10:55 a.m. PST |
Considering modern transportation systems they probably would be there within 3-4 weeks. Try 3 years. These tanks aren't in turn-key condition. They need to be updated first and that isn't even going to begin until 2017. |
| Petrov | 13 Apr 2015 11:27 a.m. PST |
Sorry, I was reffering to the cold war mid 80's fulda gap scenario. |
| Rod I Robertson | 13 Apr 2015 11:51 a.m. PST |
Fulda-shmulda! Everyone knows the real action would have happened in the north where the BAOR would fight the communist hordes to a bloody halt. : )
Rod Robertson |
| Rod I Robertson | 13 Apr 2015 11:58 a.m. PST |
Don Kyoteblue:
As per your request a forum discussion on Polish forces can be found here:
link
Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson. |
| Quaker | 13 Apr 2015 6:23 p.m. PST |
@Generalstoner49
Love the Leopard 2 but looking at that front armor also nj the turret; isn't the bottom, inward sloped armor a shot trap for incoming projectiles? The wedges are spaced armor. Also I believe shot traps aren't so much a thing any more due to the high velocities that APFDS rounds have. They will either penetrate, or partially penetrate and shatter. Rounds bouncing or sliding off an angled surface doesn't happen (except at extreme range). |
looks for scenario material in a World War IV boardgame.
