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JasonAfrika12 Apr 2015 7:52 p.m. PST

Anyone know of books or sites that show actually diagrams of carrier battle groups that show how far out the crusiers were and where the destroyer were placed and how far out? Basically I need hard nuts and bolts info on WW2 naval tactics. Unfortunately, when I try and do a search, all I get is naval STRATEGY. Where exactly were the AA cruisers placed? How about the battleships, etc. Thanks

rmaker12 Apr 2015 8:13 p.m. PST

Samuel Elliot Morison's "History of US Naval Operations in World War II" has several such diagrams. Can't point you to specific volumes, but if you go to your library and look through the Pacific volumes, you'll find them.

JasonAfrika12 Apr 2015 8:55 p.m. PST

Awesome Thanks!

Mako1112 Apr 2015 9:00 p.m. PST

Generally, IIRC, the AA cruisers would be placed on the flanks of the carriers, since that's the best angle for the enemy aircraft to attack from.

JasonAfrika12 Apr 2015 9:06 p.m. PST

Yes but how many yards out? 1000? 2000? More?

BuckeyeBob13 Apr 2015 1:21 p.m. PST

Normal steaming conditions chart
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at the very least the memo from the ship's captain about obscene language on board is a hoot!

Ships in an IJN task group were spaced further apart than in the US task forces from what I recall reading. (3000yds apart? IIRC) This gave their CV's a much greater latitude in evasive maneuvering but there was more reliance on the CV's own AA capability due to this. Whereas the US TF was closer into the CV in order to provide more AA support to it. Shattered Sword covers this in some detail.

Bottom 3 pics give some indication of how close together the ships operated.
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Finally, this link with its associated PDF links are very good in understanding a maneuvering board whereby each element in the fleet is to be located.
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Mako1113 Apr 2015 6:38 p.m. PST

I thought it was like 2,000 yds., but been awhile since I've seen the charts, or read about them.

I suspect as time went on, the cruiser and escort ring would be in closer to throw up more metal against those kamikazes.

JasonAfrika13 Apr 2015 9:51 p.m. PST

Awesome, Thanks guys!

vicmagpa119 Apr 2015 5:20 p.m. PST

iam reading Adm Chester Nimitz book " the great sea battles."

definitely a good read.

we were more flexible but it all depends when. 1943 and after is when task groups were organised better. Much more flexible.

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